Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@phoenixacezero
Ah yes, the thing conservatives take as absolutely literal for “eliminating the police force” and use a couple morons on twitter as an example that they’re right, completely ignoring that the political concept revolves around funding for non-armed intervention forces assist the police instead of handing out guns like candy to untrained yahoos.

Conservatives, taking everything the “the left” says literally, but when a righty says “grab her by the pussy”, “lock her up”, “ambush and deliver the kill shot”, etc. its’ just “a turn of phrase” and “liberals are twisting our words to make us look bad 😢

@Background Pony #829D
COuple of morons…and Chicago, New York, LA, San Francisco, both places with high crime rates due to defunding their police and making excuses for why places get robbed. Funny thing is that defunding the police have also benefited the bad cops, who don’t care about the right and wrong, only power.

So right now there is growing outrage over the sentencing of a truck driver in Colorado.

@Latecomer
Based on what? I mean their are probably more due to the size of the population relative to other countries.

@Dustcan
You would think that, you would think it would be easy, but considering the amount of people calling each other Nazis it really isn’t. Nazi right now means “someone who says something I don’t like”.

@Background Human
Actually you have cases go to the Supreme Court because people are being unduly restricted by the remaining speech cases.

@Background Pony #829D
What about the cities which have literally voted to defund the police? Did they do that on Twitter?

The Kellogg strike ended a couple days ago ending several months of fighting. So now it’s safe to buy Kellogg products. There won’t be scab piss in them anymore. At least, not until the old strike break produce is off the shelf. Still probably has piss in it.

It only refers not to “whoever I don’t like”, but “whoever who advocates fascism/Hitler teachings”. Stupid people who don’t have destructive beliefs (things like antivaxxerism, conspiracy theories, alt-right, and also Stalinism, jihadism, and extremism in general) may be left alone to rot away.

@phoenixacezero
@Background Pony #01F8
You both realize that “defund” means “to stop funding” or “to deplete financial resources to the point there are no funds left?”, right?

Despite all the hype and hoopla over “defunding” that Fox et al. throws out like slop for your lot to slurp up right out of the trough, police funding for 2020-21 in San Francisco was slashed by 1.2%, in NYC it was reduced by a back-breaking 2.7% Chicago was cut by a whopping 3.5%, though I guess that absolutely pales in comparison to LA’s eye-watering 8% reduction… that came right on the back of a previous 7% increase. Truly defunded!

End times!

Again, there’s a big difference between, say, calling someone a “Nazi mod” and “A mod that’s also literally a Nazi and doing literal Nazi things”.

Trying to take the former to court rightfully carries the chance that you’d get rejected by the judge if not counter sued for filing a frivolous lawsuit.

Is that the same one that’s been mentioned a few days prior?

@Ereiam
Yes.

@HorsesandMuchMOAR
This is like me countering that people called communists are only people who advocate for worker ownership over the means of production. Yes you can argue the meaning of communist or Nazi, the problem is in America this is not how the term is used. People on the right throw it around to mean any advocacy for more government. The same also applies to people on the left using the term Nazi, though Nazi is harder to define as an ideology. People in this very thread have accused politicians of being Nazis, despite nothing to really back it up with.

Oh here we go, now you’ve had to fall back to the technical argument of the meaning of defund, after previously complaining about people talking about the word. The discussion on defund hasn’t been about completely eliminating the budget, but making cuts to the budget of the police force. I don’t care if cuts are made as long as a system is in place already to pick up the slack, but don’t pretend like defund the police is coming from nowhere.

@Dustcan
It’s never that simple though, hate speech laws get passed and it’s never as simple as “Prove this man is a literal National Socialist” because another person is suing. Instead it turns into a person being fined for what is normally free expression that others think is just a little too taboo and Nazish for their taste. I mean hell, we already had a time in this country when Communism was more or less the big taboo, people’s lives were ruined, and it wasn’t even illegal to this extent.

@Background Pony #5208
Ah yes, falling back on the technical argument of… being correct.

My entire point is that the number of people calling to actually defund the police is minuscule and contained almost entirely to twitter. Which is something the right-wing media refuses to care about and instead takes the “defund” term used by politicians and social pressure groups 100% literally, pushing the narrative that the masterfully evil yet also completely inept left-wing politicians have left cop to fight crime with a single shared stick.

The same right wing media that never stops excusing things like “ambush them in the streets”, “it’s time to fight like never before”, “today is 1776 “, “deliver the killshot”, long etc. as clearly just political rhetoric that in no way mean what the words say and how dare anyone accuse these poor angels of making the political discussion space less useful and more hostile.

Don’t butt in if you can’t keep up.

@Background Pony #829D
Yes, and if you had any semblence of reading comprehension you would see that the other poster and myself are not speaking of defund the police in the terms of disbanding the police, but in terms of cutting back funding to police forces. This is also the vast majority of where the conversation takes place both in real life and online. You’re the person coming in and moving the goalpost to disbanding the police just so you can rant about those right wingers! Guess what, the media is hypocritical, politicians are hypocritical, glad you’ve realized this. I’m not even conservative, I don’t exclusively watch major news media on the right or left because they are full of crap. You need to stop going through these mental gymnastics to think every person who opposes “Defund the police” must just not understand what it means and thinks it is completely disbanding them.

If you actually thought about the previous posts, instead of getting worked up over how much you hate right wingers you would see that this post here,

and here,

are referencing budget cuts to police forces that have been made. You’re argument is nonsense, you are complaining that people on the right don’t understand what defund the police means and that it DOESN’T mean to disband, then turn around and immediately try to correct us by saying “You both realize that “defund” means “to stop funding” or “to deplete financial resources to the point there are no funds left?”, right?”.

You’ve turned this into a chance to rant about how much you hate right wing media.

@Background Pony #5208
Ah yes, moving the goalpost I set up of “right wing media blows twitter rhetoric out of proportion”… by pointing out them doing exactly that thanks to an example served to me on a silver platter in a failed gotcha. Maybe read the full thread instead of just the parts you like.

Don’t be mad Mr. “I’m a centrist I swear”, keep trying and maybe you’ll say something worthwhile someday.

@Background Pony #829D
Oh look at that, I see you’re typing words yet saying nothing. Just deal with it, you took the chance to rant and cry about how much you hate the right wing, only to have someone point out that nobody here is even saying this. Maybe if you bothered to think about the posts you’re replying to, instead of just ranting away at your right wing boogeymen, you wouldn’t look like a fool.

By the by, Trump is planning on having a rally on Jan 6th.

I remember years back there was a bunch of hullabaloo when a faith of Muslims wanted to build a mosque over the site of the of the fallen World Trade Center they actually wanted to build one a few blocks over, but that detail got lost. A lot of people (myself included) threw a fit; saying that is desecrating the memories as well as saying how that’s practically a declaration of how “they” “won”.

That was hyperbolic back then. It is not for this now.

@Dustcan
They’re really trying to make January 6th an alt-right holiday, aren’t they?

And I’m just destined to have my birthday take place the day prior, aren’t I?

@Background Pony #5208
>being this mad online

@Dustcan
Expecting Trump or his legion of sycophants and flag-humpers to have any sense of decency is a lost cause. I’m sure they’ll have big effigies of Ashli Babbitt erected and have a nice speech of how heroic she was and how Pelosi has blood on her hands.

In totally unrelated news, republicans in Congress continue to openly question the legitimacy of the government they work for, and Trump is (finally) taking his fight to not be investigated to the SCotUS, where the argument is uncovering what he did would bring him irreparable harm, completely ignoring that executive privilege is there to protect the country, not criminals.

Very weird how the “if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide” spiel conservatives love so much doesn’t apply to some people.

@Background Pony #829D
>u mad

Having fun in 2007?

The now ex cop who shot Daunte Wright has been found guilty of Manslaughter, and will be held without bail until sentencing in February,

Which side do you think Malaysia should be closer to: the US, China, the Muslim community (like Saudi Arabia, Palestine, and Pakistan), or stay neutral?

The Iraq War wasn’t all bad.

The world is unquestionably a better place without Saddam in it.

Perhaps.

The main problem could be the corrupt administration under the US and their abusive attitudes against the locals. Also, some of the locals were driven by poverty and fear to become more radical, leading to ISIS.

Many people claim that the War on Terror is very costly and wasteful - the US failed to remove Taliban from Afghanistan.

@Penguin Dragneel
Yes they are.