Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Arizona vote audit taken to an unmarked lab in the middle of the woods.

Investigation found out the lab was really just a cabin. The ballots were taken to ostensibly undergo forensic analysis.

The image I have in my head over this makes it look like the scene of Patrick from Spongebob in a labcoat looking through microscopes and beakers, but honestly the real thing probably looks even more stupid.



GOP Representative Jim Jordon is throwing fits in Congress, on record, over the DOJ not investigating the latest claims of voter fraud. Those specific claims, and sit down because it's about to get real stupid, is about Italian Space Lasers TM changing ballots during tabulation. No really, this is how it goes:

The publication reports that the "bats—t" conspiracy theory "involves Barack Obama amassing a secret $400 million war chest, then cahootsing with former Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte to disrupt vote tabulation in key swing states using Italian military satellites." Above the Law writes, "somehow this was all coordinated at the US Embassy in Rome, according to Brad Johnson, a self-described retired 'CIA Station Chief' and current Epoch Times columnist."


What's with the Republicans and A) electing legit dumbasses and B) legit dumbasses going on about [Insert Ethnicity Here] Space Lasers?

Why does every country and race except America not only have a Space Laser, but have so many Space Lasers that they're free to use it for so many varied things?



We live in the stupid timeline.
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The right when Hillary loses: She said she'd accept the results no matter what but she won't stop whining about losing. 🙄 Can you believe now she's trying to peddle these pathetic conspiracy theories about Russia? 😂 Sad! #MAGA

The right when Trump loses: The election was STOLEN! 😡 I don't know maybe Italy shot some vote-changing space lasers or something. 🤔

For what it's worth, I know my fair share of right wing conspiracy theorists but even they find Italian space lasers far-fetched.
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I'm waiting on the Irish space lasers.


All they do is beam a pint of Smithwicks into your glass when you run low.
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Of course, I'll try to make my characters as people, rather than focus too much on their backgrounds and make them tokens.

What do you think I should do with white nationalists? And if they start accusing me of being anti-White, what should I do?
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White nationalists are pretty cringe. They see any non-white character as "anti-white propaganda." Don't even try to bother with pleasing the unpleasable imo.
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First peice of advice, don't ask Phoenix for advice.

Second piece of advice, ignore the people who would say things like that. They're not your primary readership anyway.
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Have it ever occurred to you that people prefer natural diversity and inclusion instead of force ones.

Has it ever occurred to you that "forced diversity" is a bullshit term? This post pretty much sums it up.

There Is no such thing as "forced diversity". There doesn't need to be a justification for having diverse stories.

Nothing grinds my gears when I hear writers complain about forced diversity or, having diversity forced down our throats, or trying to find a reason to "justify" making their stories diverse. Like your WIP is litterally set in a world with dragons, magic, and witches but having a Asian dude is where you draw the line and need to justify him and his existence somehow? That's just bullshit. No one ever says a story with a bunch of straight white dudes is "forced". There's never any justification for a story to have only or majority white dudes.

When you really break it down people who use "forced diversity" unironically use mean, "forced Diversity" is when diverse people appear in a work for the sole purpose of garnering attention and/or sales or "Forced Diversity" is when diverse people are poorly written.

The first one usually heard cries of pandering. But that's all advertising is its pandering. People who are usually the ones being pandered to seem to have an issue with it when it's done for others. Like of course you'd market a book about black people to gasp black people. That's smart marketing and knowing your audience. In the world of film Tyler perry is a master at that.(no matter how little I think of his movies). And the vast majority of the time it's never the "sole" reason a character exists, just the one people use to denounce said character. It's one of the many reason that make up the fully developed character. Which leads me to my next point.

People say a diverse character is "forced" if they poorly written. They never say this about white straight dudes. I can think of dozens of horribly written white dude characters who have never been called forced. Just badly written. White characters seem to be given more leeway in this regard. If a diverse character isn't perfect and gave great flaws and motivations they are automatically called "forced". This goes to my earlier point of needing "a reason" or "justification" for diverse characters. Which is just asanine.


Yeah except no.

If you're actually trying to do proper world building, the races present in the land, and their reason for being as they are and where they are, matters. If your fantasy land has multiple races, then there needs to be a reason for them being as they are.

That isn't to say it's not possible, but if you want your readers (or players) to believe you put any amount of effort, things need to make sense. You've most likely put effort into explaining why magic exists, how it works, where the dragons come from, etc., right?

Then you should also put work into explaining how your setting has all these different races present in a landmass the size of New Jersey. Is one race native to the land? Did another come from far away and attempt to colonize it? Are another the descendants of a now collapsed trade empire? Or was there just a great diaspora centuries ago that explains the convenience of all peoples together in one place? And if so, does race matter or is it just "vanity"?

A decent example is the game Middle Earth: Shadow of War. One of the main (and playable) characters is black, in a setting that's already established as a mimic of medieval Europe with similar cultures and races. But it's explained in a believable way why this character is racially different, and it works.


Basically, "oh, you have magic and dragons, so you can have x-race as well for free" is only a good argument if you don't give a damn about proper world building and just want a cotton-candy setting where nothing makes sense if you stop and think about it. You can absolutely have x-race in the setting, or a character of x-race, but there should be an explanation as to how it makes sense, just like for anything in the world, and it can take effort, time, and knowledge that may not be available.
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Only what I've heard around and personally seen. I've watched lumber prices continue to climb in my area despite seeing trains and trains of the stuff moving through the local yards.
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Sounds like an investigation is in order, lol.


If I were to make a guess though I'd say that the pandemic put a freeze on a lot of work, I know a lot of construction around me was frozen during it. And with everything lifting work as resumed, to my annoyance. So could also be a sudden spike in demand with every going back to work at the same time.
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Found an article about it: it's apparently a combination of the lumber industry having ramped down early into the pandemic, expecting demand to decrease with the economic activity, and the opposite happening with people at home going into a home improvement spree and the housing demand (and therefore the construction demand as well) bouncing back faster than expected, while the supply chain found itself unable to catch up fast enough to make the difference. Add speculators on top of that to take advantage of the rising prices, and boom.
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I want to ask again: what would Ashley Babbitt would have done if the cops did not shoot her?

Would she have started attacking or murdering senators, as part of the right-wing militias' attempt to take over the US government?

I'm asking this because rightoids on Twitter are treating her as a martyr.
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In the first couple days I was convinced they'd do nothing really. Maybe scream "MAGA!" in Congress' faces, but nothing physical.

Then more and more news came out about what exactly happened there. News about Y'all Qaeda building a gallows out on Congress' steps. News about Trump supporters chanting to hang the vice president. News about these animals not even being house broken and leaving feces over the halls. Oh, and in the case of Babbitt herself, news of her getting shot in the face because she was literally crawling through the broken window of a door like something out of a zombie movie.

I can't say for sure what the MAGAts would've done to Congress, but even before you factor in mob mentality it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together.

As for martyring her, it's rather telling who left-leaners and right-leaners make heroes out of. "Say Her Name" was the slogan of lefties when Breonna Taylor was murdered in her sleep by cops breaking into her apartment, after they lied to a judge to get a search warrant. Later on, righties (led by Tucker Carlson) tried to appropriate "Say Her Name" for Ashley Babbitt, who died because she was crawling through a door's window like a fucking zombie trying to eat the brains of Congress, both because she lacked any of her own and because she was pissed off she lived in a democracy.
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We have Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson trending on Twitter. I think it's because of January 6th. Checks Yep, it's becuase of January 6th.
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Oh, and in the case of Babbitt herself, news of her getting shot in the face because she was literally crawling through the broken window of a door like something out of a zombie movie.

To paraphrase Rorschach: "Protesters get arrested, rabid bitches get put down."
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I saw HorsesAndMuchMoar's post on the twitter user saying anti-white etc and I'm like:

Are jews white? If I was being a racist towards a white person who I later found out was a jew was I then both an anti-white AND an antisemite? How does that work?

Can a jew be both white and jewish?
What about half-whites born from interracial relationship? quarter whites? Can a person be both white and black, white and arab, white and asian or white and latino? (I don't mean descendants of conquistadores)

Are white muslims white or did they have their whiteness revoked the moment they wear keffiyeh or a hijab? Because fun fact, about a quarter of american muslims are white, half are black, another quarter are brown or arab, with less than 5% being latino and miscellaneous.

…is a white person of jewish mother and of muslim faith white, jewish or muslim? These labels games are really inconvenient for me.
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This is according to what I have observed WNs, alt-righters, Groypers, fascists, and NeoNazis on the Internet:

1. No. WNs (white nationalists) do not consider Jews as White, and they also regard Jews as enemies.

2. WNs don't consider mixed people to be White, even if they look White. They also regard mixed people as "freaks", using several people with disorders and criminals to represent all of them (ignoring talented people in the process).

3. WNs would revoke the converts' Whiteness, just because their Islamic faith associates them with the WNs' enemies (in this case, Middle Easterners; I remember a certain racialist blog that got angry over White British Muslims, accusing them of being "weak"). The same applies towards any White person who doesn't follow white nationalism, Nazism, or right-wing beliefs: their term for such people who reject their views is "race traitor", and they are regarded as enemies to be ridiculed, harrassed, or murdered .

For some WNs, "race traitor" also extends towards Christian Whites, who are accused of treason by worshipping Jesus (a Jew, so considered "foreign") instead of Odin or Perun.

4. WNs would regard said person either as Jewish or Muslim, depending on their fancy. Either way, that poor fellow would still be reviled as their enemy.

It's something like how Irish and Italian people were treated in the early USA, when they were not considered White in spite of their European origin.
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Parler Warned the FBI of Potential Violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 More Than 50 Times [Gizmodo]

TL;DR: Parler, a Conservative Social Media, has warned the FBI 50 times about their own users potentionally starting violence at the Captial on Jan 6th. Hell, Parler ousted their own members by providing transcripts of concerning communications to the FBI, but the FBI pretty sat there and did nothing until it was too late.

And dare I ask, could the Jan 6th Capitol Insurrection been avoided?
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I'm not sure what's the most ironic here: that Y'all Qaeda got ratted out by their so-called "safe space" or that nearly 20 years after 9/11, the US intelligence services have apparently learned nothing.
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