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Not as such. They cobbled together an “anyone but Bibi” coalition with parties from the left, right, and center. They’ve even got an Arab party in the mix. If the new guy does… basically anything, he runs the risk of pissing someone off and losing his governing majority.
 
The Arab party aside, most of those really are not much different from Netanyahu’s position. There’s not really a left opposition, particularly towards the Palestinian question. Sure: Isrealis might get healthcare or welfare if there was a left-wing surge in the polls. But Labor Zionism is dead and sunken to the bottom of the Dead Sea, even the people that lead its old party are all for the breaking of bones of even peacefully protesting Palestinians.
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This showed up in my news feed and had this quote
 
“Mitch McConnell is already foreshadowing that he’ll steal a 3rd Supreme Court seat if he gets the chance. He’s done it before, and he’ll do it again. We need to expand the Supreme Court,” said Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.).
 
What a dummy, you could argue he stole one seat, you can argue he atole no seats, but claiming both seats were stolen doesn’t make sense.
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And the status quo for Palestinians isn’t exactly great, so gridlock in the Knesset isn’t necessarily helpful. But it may at least limit the damage Bennett can do with the government’s imprimatur. Those four Arab seats are critical unless he can flip an opposition party or two.
 
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One seat was filled much slower than normal, one seat was filled much faster than normal, both to thwart a Democratic administration.
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Either you think the senate must go through the process with a nominee, in which case the Republicans stole a seat in 2016 with Garland, or you think the seat shouldn’t be filled in an election year in which case Garland was ok, but ACB was stolen.
 
Trying to reason by narrowing both ends of the timeframe is just mental gymnastics so you can have your cake and eat it too. On the flip side you could argue that the Senate can do whatever they want, and therefore no seats were stolen, but that wasn’t the argument the Republicans implied in 2016 and if the roles were flipped no Republican would say that.
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One confirmation was stalled, the other was rushed.
 
It’s funny that you talk about having your cake and eating it too, since that’s exactly what it came to, what with Malarkey Mitch playing fast and loose with the rules by using two contradictory justifications however it suited him best.
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@Ereiam  
Sure, Mitch did the same, but Democrats claiming both were stolen are doing it now. You shouldn’t meet hypocrisy with more hypocrisy. One seat was stolen, pick one.
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No seat would’ve been stolen if Mentiroso Mitch had been consistent by stalling both Merrick Garland and Amy Coney Barrett’s nominations, because that would’ve meant his justification of “no confirmation in an election year” was legitimate.  
Betraying his own word by fast-tracking ACB’s nomination when it came even later in the next election year however only proved that said justification was nothing but a partisan-motivated bullshit excuse, thus marring both of those nomination processes with his dishonesty.
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It could, hopefully cooler heads will prevail though and we won’t have either party trying to expand and pack the court.
 
 
@Ereiam  
Again, I’m not disagreeing that Mitch wasn’t dishonest, and I am not defending him. However just because he was dishonest with his reasoning doesn’t mean you should base what you think is right off of what he believes. It doesn’t matter if Mitch really believes in the idea of no confirmation in an election year, what matters is what YOU believe. If you think the Garland seat needed to wait for the election since the people should have a say via the general election then that seat would be valid, but the ACB seat would be seen as “theft”.
 
If, on the other hand, you believe (as I do) that waiting for the general election is pointless as both the senate and presidency have their full power until the end of their term and should be doing their job till that point then you see the Garland seat as “theft” but the ACB seat is valid.
 
Mitch claimed to have the belief that the Senate can do what they like, which while technically correct leads to the controlling party screwing around so they get their way. I also don’t think any Republican would say this if the roles were reversed and the Democrats were the ones holding up a nomination till after the election.
 
Yes, Mitch was full of it, but in criticizing him for that you should be consistent as well.
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CRT being added to my evidence folder that I can sell arsenic to conservative posters as a neurosupplement
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Gov. Ron DeSantis seems to be a sensible feller.
 
You meant the same DeSantis who got exposed trying to fudge the numbers of COVID-19 contaminations in his state so he could justify reopening it earlier and responded by sending state police to ransack the whistleblower’s house?  
Shows how little you know if that’s the guy you choose to praise.
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Can you link to a source on Desantis faking Covid numbers? I’ve already seen one news network peddle a conspiracy about him so now I am suspicious of claims.
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Garland was held up for 9 months because “it was an election year”. ACB, despite it also being an election year, was fast tracked in under a month.
 
“Fast tracked” being a doubly important phrase since, while there’s no established limit on how long a confirmation process has to be, they’ve traditionally taken 2 months. ACB was first announced and seated in half that time.
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@Ereiam  
I’m typically not concerned about sources, just as long as they aren’t some wacky blog or something. I’m more concerned about the sources’ sources. In this case that source is the person who was fired. In other words “Person who was fired claims organization who fired her is bad”. It might be true of of course, but we both know disgruntled people will lie. Either way it isn’t fact as you initially made it appear. Again after the 60 minutes piece I am suspicious, I’ll have to do more research into this person and what happened.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis seems to be a sensible feller.
I live in Florida, and I can say with some certainty that the guy who was found in a hotel room with crystal meth and an unconscious escort would have been a better governor than Bargain Basement Trump.
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That does not sound good at all. At least he did something right in banning CRT at least.
 
Oh, I misread your post and thought you were talking about DeSantis there. Derp, it’s late…
 
DeSantis is so bad you would rather have someone like that as governor?? 😯
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Gov. Ron DeSantis seems to be a sensible feller.
I live in Florida, and I can say with some certainty that the guy who was found in a hotel room with crystal meth and an unconscious escort would have been a better governor than Bargain Basement Trump.
 
oof.
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