Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

Zincy
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@Backgroundpony

Poll "Do you believe God Exists".

Result- "Ranked on a 7 point Likert Like scale with 1 being (yes absolutely) and 7 being (no absolutely not) a majority of church going people in the United states (80%) are more likely to believe that God exists, while a minority (20%) are more likely to believe that "maybe" or no. N= 2000, margin of error +/- 3. The results show that a vast majority of church goes believe God exists, but a not unsubstantional number of church goes believe that he only maybe exists, or doesnt exist. Of those who say he does not exist, additional polling questions indicated that they attend church out of habit or family obligations. Furthermore, additional data was collected on political leaning, with those in the Yea catagories more likely to lean conservative."


Science.

Try again.


No poll worth its salt would be set up in the way you phrased it.
Zincy
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@Backgroundpony

Your strawman. I want you to try it again, because I want to see you use actual straw instead of used condoms and spit.


You tried to counter his assertion by constructing a hypothetical poll, deliberately poorly designed, as a strawman to refute him. Despite the fact that, by all rights, the poll you constructed is not scientific in the slightest. Never would be considered scientific, and whose results would never be considered factual.
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@Backgroundpony

Then I'd like to see you ad hominem better. Because that was barely a mock, more like a school yard bully teasing the nerdy kids before he goes home to be beaten by his drunken father.

Get some teeth on your insults.
Zincy
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@Backgroundpony

You can hurl some very sharp attacks without being banned. I do it all the time.

The trick is to make it look like you're going after their argument when in reality you're calling them a raging idiot.

As far as I know, I've never once been banned, despite doing stuff like calling your argument an amalgamation of cum and spit.
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@Dustcan

Less loophole, more skirting the edge.


Like you've never insinuated that your opponent was a toss pot by cleverly weaving the insult into your rebuttal. In fact, I've seen you do it masterfully before. You, yourself, have a rather skillful way with words when it comes to making your opponent look like an idiot.
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Biden has announced that he's in favor of waiving Covid vaccine patent protections.

You know, before I thought the main thing justifying Biden's presidency was the news that it's pissing Obama off. You know, President Drone Strike? The guy who screwed over progressives and leftists thus consequently handing the country to Trump in 2016 to preserve his legacy? And who screwed over progressives and leftists thus consequently almost ensured the country stayed in Trump's hands in 2020 to preserve his legacy…'s image? Yeah there were reports that he's not happy that Biden is being a bit too progressive and leftist for his tastes (re:slightly progressive and leftist).

But honestly? If Biden actually follows through and gives Big Pharma a middle finger then yes I won't cringe at the constant "FDR 2.0" comparisons anymore. That alone would justify his presidency, let alone how it portents good things in the future.
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@NitroFury
You mean the GOP panacking that the Trump supporter leaving Twitter and Facebook so they would have to join his social media to get access to their voter base and have to split their efforts? And be forever under his influence?

Oh yes they want him back on the old socialmedia

You said it yourself it will fail.
I am I'm inclined to agree with you.

But both outcomes are favorable to me.
The idiot gets unblocked is a bitter victory for freespeech
The idiot gets his on social media running and silicon valley losses a little influnce
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@Zincy

And more often than not I've made a tosser of myself rushing to post an indignant rebuttal, so those moments were closer to a broken clock.

@igotnopicks

As far as I understand, Covid vaccines are 100% free in the US already. Double check when you go to get yours, but the government is apparently subsidizing the cost whether you are insured or not. Waiving the patent protection doesn't help Americans; it does help other pharmaceutical companies but Americans won't be effected one way or the other.

What this does mean is that third world countries gets the opportunity to receive/produce generic versions of the vaccine at cheap. This is simply an ethical decision, and good on Biden for doing it.
Background Pony #1F81
Is it even possible to have a "civil" discussion about modern politics online these days?

Even when it's not down to outright insults and threats, there's always a heavy element of snark and strawmanning and the subtle/not so subtle aura of "im better then you".
Zincy
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@Dustcan

Decently accurate clock at the very least, I think you've done a grand job.



@Background Pony #1F81

Define civil? Truthfully, I don't believe any argument in human history, from the great Greek Forums to today's, forums (ironically), have not had lots of sniping, subtle (and not so subtle) jabs, and a general sense of wanting to come out on top.

Humans are not Vulcans, never have been. We are emotional creatures, and a good 90% of our thinking is purely System 1 / Peripheral processing.

We symbolize and characterize, because it is easier. We create metaphors to attack our opponents and their arguments because it conveys information easier. We rely on heuristics for both good, and poor reasons.


This mythical, purely "civil" debate where not a single person throws a punch has never existed.


Theres a few centuries worth of drunken Greeks that will show you how "enlightened" humanity has been.
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@Dustcan
@igotnopicks Waiving the patent protection doesn't help Americans; it does help other pharmaceutical companies but Americans won't be effected one way or the other.


Wait no, I just realized. Although it'll be too late to roll out generic Covid vaccines for Americans before the pandemic is adequately behind us, if and when it does if the government is still subsidizing it then they'll be paying for cheaper vaccines. So while this decision helps poor countries more it still would end up helping Americans in the long run.

Win/win!
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