Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)
AaronMk 
Sky funeral
The K-Hive will be the new Q, let’s go: war already against Vanity Faire again. Those traitors shot Kamala in a bad light! Their trial and execution will be priority over the Capitol Stormers!
MethidMan 
I just came across an interesting post in the Straight Dope Message Board:
For the most part, there’s nothing wrong with banning Qanon and obviously false things. But what worries me is that there is no recourse. With these tech giants, since they’re non-governmental, there is almost zero accountability. If they start banning legit arguments or legit viewpoints, who could do a thing to stop them?Nobody. Just like nobody stops the restaurant from taking down my flyers from their bulletin board, and nobody makes the radio station air my call, and nobody makes the newspaper publish my op-ed. It’s their property/business, not mine.
AaronMk
Sky funeral
I am so entertained that people are discovering the underlying contradictions between you as an individual having liberties, but the fact they abutt against the interests of the private economy and will only exist so long as they are profitable or convenient for them to begin with.
And also the history of the rise and fall of print media.
Anyways playing the four-eight year long game that whatever Biden manages with a new wave of laws against internal terror being turned against the otherside the way they’ll be deployed against the MAGA types now.
And also the history of the rise and fall of print media.
Anyways playing the four-eight year long game that whatever Biden manages with a new wave of laws against internal terror being turned against the otherside the way they’ll be deployed against the MAGA types now.
Latecomer
@MethidMan
Perhaps there does need to be a public option or somesuch, though… there being no place where one can be meaningfully exposed to views from across the spectrum seems likely to feed the already rampant polarisation of politics.
Perhaps there does need to be a public option or somesuch, though… there being no place where one can be meaningfully exposed to views from across the spectrum seems likely to feed the already rampant polarisation of politics.
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
I’m kinda late to this but whatever:
Where do you stand on the whole “Trump and supporters being booted of social media is a slippery slope in greater censorship across the board” debate going on strong right now?
I know people who dislike Trump that think him getting kicked off of Twitter could set a dangerous precedent.
While I liked seeing the Orange Clown get shut up, I’m kinda split on that other topic.
Where do you stand on the whole “Trump and supporters being booted of social media is a slippery slope in greater censorship across the board” debate going on strong right now?
I know people who dislike Trump that think him getting kicked off of Twitter could set a dangerous precedent.
While I liked seeing the Orange Clown get shut up, I’m kinda split on that other topic.
Wiimeiser 
(Foil Hat)
@CaptainXtra
The way the US is now, “no government censorship, do what you want as long as you’re not hurting anyone else” is kind of a failed system. I’m expecting more censorship, Derpibooru to ban Aryanne again to the point where Earthsong and Goat Train decide to forgive us, and China replacing the US as dominant influence by the end of the decade.
The way the US is now, “no government censorship, do what you want as long as you’re not hurting anyone else” is kind of a failed system. I’m expecting more censorship, Derpibooru to ban Aryanne again to the point where Earthsong and Goat Train decide to forgive us, and China replacing the US as dominant influence by the end of the decade.
Latecomer
@CaptainXtra
I think it does raise questions, but it not being allowed to happen could just as easily start a slippery slope to the total loss of business discretion, further discouraging pretty much anyone with principles beyond profit from running a company. There isn’t a solid right answer, but I’m certainly of the opinion that Trump got (far less than) what he deserved.
I think it does raise questions, but it not being allowed to happen could just as easily start a slippery slope to the total loss of business discretion, further discouraging pretty much anyone with principles beyond profit from running a company. There isn’t a solid right answer, but I’m certainly of the opinion that Trump got (far less than) what he deserved.
MethidMan
Some more interesting cross-talk:
And yes, more than a freedom of expression thing it’s a markets thing. Heck, back in Ye Olde Days, seditionists and wingnuts had to just pass along mimeographed newsletters or self-publish their “books” and sell them in lower-end newsstands next to the porn. They were not entitled to be distributed by the major houses or sold at the major bookstores. Their letters to the Editor would just get tossed if they were incomprehensible or vile. That did not mean they were being deprived of their freedom, did it? The publishers and bookstores were not “common carriers” obligated to convey anything anyone wanted to sell through them.Today we deal with a distorted market situation, where there is a perception that if you’re not on Amazon/Google/Twitter/Apple you might as well not exist…but that may be just a reflection of a culture of both content creator and consumer audience that doesn’t want to go, one of them through the effort and expense of of actually setting up their own server hosts and environments, and the others through that of looking up the sites the “hard” way. I commented elsewhere, why in the world would the runners of Parler want to be hosted at AMAZON of all places? They just went for whatever was easiest. Heck, their verifier application was a *&^%$# Free Trial!This is very close to my opinion. By and large I don’t think social media companies act as common carriers. If the Post Office, UPS, or FedEx refused to service eg: Trump supporters I would see a problem. If internet service providers refused to offer service to people based on the content of their communications, I would see a problem. Amazon’s decision to ban Parler from its cloud hosting, specifically, does not bother me at all. Twitter’s decision to ban the President’s account doesn’t bother me because legally and technically speaking I see Twitter and other social media as a publisher, not a platform - section 230 notwithstanding.
Background Human
CHS, Class of 20XX
@CaptainXtra
For too long, Twitter treated Trump with kid gloves. His shitposts would have gotten him banned long ago from any decent community. But he brought in the clicks, and so Twitter invented rules to justify his continued tenure. Only when his words led directly and undeniably to violence did they bother to act.
For too long, Twitter treated Trump with kid gloves. His shitposts would have gotten him banned long ago from any decent community. But he brought in the clicks, and so Twitter invented rules to justify his continued tenure. Only when his words led directly and undeniably to violence did they bother to act.
Kolbjorn
Banana
@Background Human
Someone created a twitter account named something like “will I be banned?” where the person copied exactly the same tweets that Trump wrote. The account was banned or suspended at least 4 times
Someone created a twitter account named something like “will I be banned?” where the person copied exactly the same tweets that Trump wrote. The account was banned or suspended at least 4 times
Dustcan 
Dogs
@CaptainXtra
I think it’s something that needs to be paid attention to. I’m not ignorant to how Martin Niemoller’s poem went.
But. Like. It took an insurrection before Big Soc Media finally gave Trump the boot. Everything short of that was fine apparently, so as long as you and I don’t try and overthrow America I think we’re gonna be fine.
I think it’s something that needs to be paid attention to. I’m not ignorant to how Martin Niemoller’s poem went.
But. Like. It took an insurrection before Big Soc Media finally gave Trump the boot. Everything short of that was fine apparently, so as long as you and I don’t try and overthrow America I think we’re gonna be fine.
Ebalosus 
Build commie blocks!
@AaronMk
Oh I can do you one better: those new internal terrorism laws will be sold by the Sorkinite libs to the republicans as “you can use these against leftists too!” and they’ll be all onboard for such legislation. I can almost guarantee you that once Biden has been president a while, such laws will be used against wildcat strikers.
Oh I can do you one better: those new internal terrorism laws will be sold by the Sorkinite libs to the republicans as “you can use these against leftists too!” and they’ll be all onboard for such legislation. I can almost guarantee you that once Biden has been president a while, such laws will be used against wildcat strikers.
doloresbridge
Peace to all
@CaptainXtra
90% against it. Considering we were in a environment where the establishment was saying Oh, the majority of the BLM protests aren’t violent! Yet also trying to justify the violence that was happening to the point of canceling people who even suggested that violence was bad in general The only exception I’ll grant is that I consider it possible that certain actors are dangerous and that mass violence should be suppressed but even then I’m not so sure on the effectiveness of that tactic or if it’ll just make things worse.
@Ebalosus
Oh, I could totally see that, behind closed doors anyway. They’ll pluck the leaders of these movements and abandon the grassroots
@Dustcan
I can respect that stance. I’ll take relishing the destruction of a political enemy with one eye open to potential future consequences over the normal behavior of a headless chicken that I often see a lot of partisans.
90% against it. Considering we were in a environment where the establishment was saying Oh, the majority of the BLM protests aren’t violent! Yet also trying to justify the violence that was happening to the point of canceling people who even suggested that violence was bad in general The only exception I’ll grant is that I consider it possible that certain actors are dangerous and that mass violence should be suppressed but even then I’m not so sure on the effectiveness of that tactic or if it’ll just make things worse.
@Ebalosus
Oh, I could totally see that, behind closed doors anyway. They’ll pluck the leaders of these movements and abandon the grassroots
@Dustcan
I can respect that stance. I’ll take relishing the destruction of a political enemy with one eye open to potential future consequences over the normal behavior of a headless chicken that I often see a lot of partisans.
That Little Faggot with the Earring and the Makeup 
Entry Of The Chameleons
I don’t know if you chucklefreaks heard, but there’s a massive petition to get PornHub shut down on grounds of hosting videos featuring sex trafficking victims.
here’s the linky-linky to Vice’s article here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxqy4z/petition-shut-down-pornhub-trafficking-hub-earn-it
you’re welcome.
here’s the linky-linky to Vice’s article here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxqy4z/petition-shut-down-pornhub-trafficking-hub-earn-it
you’re welcome.
Background Pony #CB65
@Latecomer
There’s currently no indisputable evidence that America, as a whole and/or in general actually does work that way today, deliberately because of things like race, gender, etc. that I have seen brought forward yet, although you are absolutely correct in that not all crimes warrant death.
There’s currently no indisputable evidence that America, as a whole and/or in general actually does work that way today, deliberately because of things like race, gender, etc. that I have seen brought forward yet, although you are absolutely correct in that not all crimes warrant death.
Background Pony #CB65
Did anybody else see the astoundingly hypocritical tweet from Twitter’s policy account regarding the elections in Uganda?
igotnopicks
Monado User
@Dustcan
Trump can still use Social Media though. He can still use Porn Hub. They didn’t ban him.
Trump can still use Social Media though. He can still use Porn Hub. They didn’t ban him.
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