Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@AaronMk  
Thank you for another high quality post. And yes I did indeed. The articles linked to are full of sources you can check if so inclined.
 
 
@Ebalosus  
Giving guns to someone that plans armed revolution or someone that wants to defend their home? You can probably see where I am leaning here.
 
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@Violet Rose in The Rain  
What trash is this? It focuses on recent sanctions when the problems with Venezuela go back much further. Yes, Venezuela’s economic collapse began before Trump, but somehow that is evidence that it is America’s fault. What a joke. How about you don’t ignore the fact that the government has mismanaged the economy for years and attempted price controls which has become a complete disaster. Stop excusing an authoritarian dictator who is executing a piss poor economic plan by blaming it on the United States.
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Oh, and before you throw shade at the US claiming that death and misery is because of a country which is actively harming them and refusing to help, how about you first look to the Venezuelan president who has actively blocked aid to the country FROM the United States. Insanity
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I documented everything I said about it. Check the previous page. American oil companies are not the reason the country went to hell.
Sorry but I do not agree with any of this.
 
Translation: silbasa refuses to consider any new source of information and continue to double down because he’s a conservative and his mask is as thin as paper.
 
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how about you first look to the Venezuelan president who has actively blocked aid to the country FROM the United States.
You know, none of this would’ve happened if American didn’t put sanctions on the country in the first place, which also contributed massively to their crisis.
 
And I’m also very sure there’s no hidden agenda with their so-called “food aid”, no siree. /s
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@Violet Rose in The Rain  
No, it would have happened, because of mismanagement and poor economic policies that put the country in a bad position and when oil prices dropped in 2014 they were fucked, after that those bad policies snowballed, food shortages, inflation, and the president proceeded to just act the authoritarian and stack the supreme court to protect himself. Keep reading your propaganda though, it obviously has tricked you into thinking everything the US does is bad “Oh, they’re sending aid to the country? must be a CONSPIRACY.”
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Did Venezuela put too many eggs into one basket by having oil be their main export? Yes.
 
Does America have a history of sabotaging socialist governments with atrocities like Operation: Condor? Yes.
 
I’m perfectly capable of understanding both concepts because they’re not in conflict with one another.
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@Violet Rose in The Rain  
America has screwed with Latin American countries in the past, therefore Venezuela’s current collapse must be their fault. Yeah, that line of thinking is absurd. It starts with the answer, that the USA is at fault for what is happening, and then walks back to find reasons to support it.
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For being such a failed state, it’s important to note that according to Trumpists Venezuela won the US elections. Score one for ~socialism~.
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@silbasa
I find that hard to believe. But I’ll take your word for it.
Any attempt to shape a culture or religion into what you find acceptable is always going to eventually cross lines. Always. Because you will never be satisfied with it.
You only stop trying to change and try to live with it, once you face severe oppositions from those whose religion you tried to change–that’s when you know you’ve hit the CORE of the religion. Something that practicioners simply cannot do without.
 
 
@silbasa  
@tehwatever
Nice tactic, morphing what the french are currently doing into concentration camps to make me look extreme. Muslims came here to live in democracies, some things will have to change then. Advocating for a more secular version of the religion aka what christianty is today is not the same as placing people in camps or taking anything away. But a less literal interpretation of said religion would go a very long way to keep our nations stable and secure
 
Who won this argument?
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@silbasa
Socialists don’t like to talk about Venezuela. What has happened there is a tragedy and the fact that most people don’t acknowledge it is awful. These people, and I am talking about genuine socialists here, would rather point to capitalist nordic countries and claim they are socialists.
 
Venezuela isn’t that different economically from the Nordic Countries???
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IDK why YouTube keeps trying to recommend me this “Gypsy Crusade” guy, but I am sick of it.
 
TLDR is that he’s an openly racist and anti-Semitic Proud Boy who spends all his time dressed up as the Joker and saying offensive things to people on sites like Omeagle.
 
And the reason he was like this is because ANTIFA attacked him and some other proud boys at a protest and he got doxxed by them and lost his job.
 
Like don’t get me wrong that is a really shitty thing to happen and ANTIFA is still garbage, but the amount of people I’ve seen unironically supporting him and trying to say that he is someone the world “needs” is stupid. What happened to him was bad, how he responded to this is worse.
 
~Once again leave it to groups like the Proud Boys to not realise that an insane murderer is not someone you should look up to~
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