Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@Ereiam  
I called you a leftist. You have previously stated that you are a socialist/communist no? Is that incorrect? I have never used the words “trump derangement syndrome” about you, you pulled that into the to mix in that post.
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@silbasa
 
Well, I’ll try to do better. Sometimes, however, I forget my good upbringing as a child when political issues are rather “felt” and no longer “logically justified” discussed. I can certainly accept the opinion of other people. And even if I am sometimes a bit acerbic and/or sarcastic, it is not at all due to a personal antipathy towards someone.
 
But I also consider it an absolute political kindergarten to do any Trump level of discussion. I am still a mind-child of the diplomacy of the 1990s - but I see today’s online community as so toxic by populist polemics that it becomes more and more difficult for me not to counter this nonsense with a certain sharpness. Some people don’t seem to want to understand it any other way.
 
I often do not like this myself, but if I have learned anything from today’s political dealings and the new diplomacy between states, it is the fact that one can no longer be constantly prepared to compromise. Sometimes one must also defend one’s own point of view and not give way one single foot to nationalistic selfishness.
 
But as always in life, it is not a question of black or white. There are just many different shades of grey. I admit, maybe sometimes I see things a little too grimly. If I hurt other people’s feelings, I’m sorry. But unfortunately, nowadays it is hardly possible to maintain the polite status quo if the wells from which we all draw our knowledge and opinions are already poisoned.
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I have never used the words “trump derangement syndrome” about you
 
The words you used were:  
As a leftist it is your instinct to immediately respond when something could make Trump look a little less crazy.
 
That’s what your kind of bad faith arguers commonly call “Trump derangement syndrome” and, at any rate, that had nothing to do with the substance of my argument, which pertained to an arithmetical mistake you made in your death toll comparison.
 
Therefore, all things considered, Violet calling you out on it was actually pretty reasonable, independently from being “this threads leftist enforcer” or not.
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@Ereiam  
You made the argument about population density and size. I made the argument, subjectively, that those factors does not matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. Your math is correct, but my personal opionion of its significance differs from yours. Living in a country with 15 people per Km2 (38 people per mi2), massive testing and tracking/quarantining, we still cant contain it and have hundreds of cases everyday. If questioning how relevant that geographical distance/population size is makes me a bad faith actor, so be it I suppose.
 
Oh, and said person is attacking everyone that does not agree with them all the time using language such as: “Silbasa: “The EU is incompetent and everyone who disagree or argues against me simply has Trump Derangement Syndrome. :):):):););):):):);););):):(;(;)”” - not really a good faith debater no?
 
@DarkObsidian  
You gotta be you. I am also a child of the 90s. We did walk around with a large stick up our collective rear ends back then about everything, as people tend to do now. Better times.
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@Commune  
He’s certainly not spending it on quality hair dye
 
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Good god, this clown of a man’s been a roll
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@Kolbjorn  
“Like the movie 300”
 
For fuck’s sake. I can’t wait for the future where D-Day is only known as “like that scene in Saving Pvt. Ryan”.
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@Kolbjorn
 
There were between 10,000 to 20,000 other Greek soldiers there, yes.
 
Also movie or not, D’Souza does know the armies of Greece lost that battle right? Like, Leonidas knew his combined army would get stomped anyway, dismissed most of them until there were only the aforementioned 10-20k, then stalled the Persian advance until they inevitably lost?
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“Stalwart Trump supporter, Rep. Louie Gohmert, claimed that “intel people had given him info that the US Army had raided the offices of a Spanish company in the country of Germany to seize proof of fraud in the US elections.
 
Except such a blatantly illegal act of war never happened, the company in question has no offices in Germany, and their work is just related to displaying pretty charts, not anything that affects votes.
 
Oh, and Gohmert later quietly admitted that his “intel people” was just a tweet he read.
 
 
Of course none of that stopped his statements blatant lies from going viral in the conservative websphere and fueling more of this absurd denial of reality. It’s hilarious looking back at conservatives mocking leftists over decrying Trump’s literally undisputed electoral victory in 2016, when they’re now screaming like babies demanding that reality itself be changed to satisfy their fragility.
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I just like to imagine that the guy who confused Minnesota with Michigan was also the same guy who confused Four Seasons Total Landscaping with the Four Seasons hotel  
“Um, Rudy, yeah I got bad news. You know that press conference we are supposed to have at the Four Seasons Hotel? Well I may have accidentally booked it at a landscaping business, don’t worry there’s a lot of space! Just not the most glorious, also it’s next to a dildo shop. See you in 10 minutes!”  
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It’s hilarious looking back at conservatives mocking leftists over decrying Trump’s literally undisputed electoral victory in 2016, when they’re now screaming like babies demanding that reality itself be changed to satisfy their fragility.
Especially when you consider that most if not all of the complaining over Trump’s victory in 2016 was related to entirely legitimate problems that the electoral college has and the fact that it has (in recent decades) often given the presidency to someone who didn’t actually win the majority of people’s votes. They still accepted the results of the system, even if they absolutely loathed the person it selected.
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It’s hilarious looking back at conservatives mocking leftists over decrying Trump’s literally undisputed electoral victory in 2016, when they’re now screaming like babies demanding that reality itself be changed to satisfy their fragility.
Especially when you consider that most if not all of the complaining over Trump’s victory in 2016 was related to entirely legitimate problems that the electoral college has and the fact that it has (in recent decades) often given the presidency to someone who didn’t actually win the majority of people’s votes. They still accepted the results of the system, even if they absolutely loathed the person it selected.
 
Well technically there’s only been 5 people who’s won the presidency despite losing the popular vote. It’s just that it happened to the last 2 Republican presidents in a row.
 
Incidentally, the first one also lost the Electoral College while the second is the only one in history to lose the popular vote twice.
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