Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Well, of course you have to understand that as a German I have a different access to the CRT than that since the 1970s in the USA and since the last time in France. Only for historical and cultural classification.
 
The initial question is whether the CRT as a starting point rightly precedes the assumption, whether racism is by no means an exception, but is everyday and structurally founded. As far as I understand it, the CRT declares racism as a historically grown and societal phenomenon that expresses a power relationship that is also maintained by the law.
 
CRT establishes racism as a “social relationship”, which is based on the unequal distribution of opportunities and the unequal access to social resources. The central moment of this relationship of domination is a normalizing thinking of difference, which is based on two supposedly natural, homogeneous and unbridgeable identities, cultures or categories with conflicting qualities.
 
Against this approach, “being against racism” can too quickly create the illusion that racism can be overcome and eliminated, while a racist-conscious approach builds on a structural understanding of racism. According to this, it is only important to make racialization processes and their compaction visible within the races and to constantly question them. This brings to the forefront the permanence, ubiquity and even the irrevocability of racist contexts.
 
Is that about right, or is something missing? I am only asking this question before I venture into a critical territory here that, given the current “explosiveness”, there is cause for fierce discussion.
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@tehwatever
 
There is very little evidence of the so called “sexual desensitization” loop.
 
There is some evidence to suggest that porn gives people unrealistic standards of beauty, penis size, and sexual performance, but little to suggest that it makes people more extreme.
 
In fact, countries with liberal porn laws have lower rates of extreme fetishism outside the virtual space. Sweden comes to mind.
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@Zincy  
IMO sexual desensitization happens when paired with isolation, depression, and ofc, misogyny.
 
Porn illicit up the same responses we get from food more or less so imma use a food False Analogy.
 
Liberal use of porn paired with a healthy dose of actual interaction with people and sexual adventures (I assume Sweden has those things) is alright.  
Similar to a healthy diet with healthy exercise.
 
What I’m warning ppl against, is when weird porn subtitutes human sexual experience. That is akin to eating POOR DIET, which at that point the regular amount of exercise isn’t going to cut it.
 
Consuming HENTAI (literally means perverted, abnormal) is a poor goddamn diet. You pair that with ppl with zero ppl skills is like pairing shit diet with sedentary lifestyle.
 
A destructive loop bound to happen. Not irreversible, however.
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@tehwatever
 
You’re missing the forest for the trees on that one lad.
 
In that respect, fixing the other social ills would be more effective than banning or restricting porn. Same thing with drugs.
 
The drugs themselves are not the problem, the reasons people are using them are the problems.
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Yes, that’s why you look at per capita rates. Grade things on a curve in order to account for population disparities.
 
And even that’s still oversimplifying it, but it at least keep things understandable.
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@Zincy  
That is correct. That is what I’m going for.  
I was NOT in anyway asking for porn regulations (despite my jumping through hoops comment).
 
When you really address porn addiction you probably at some point figure out that it’s those other social ills that are fuelling those addictions and turning them into problems.
 
Cure them ills and most likely you wont have problems.
 
Same with a healthy lifestyle. When your body is in its optimal state and free of ills, your body will on its own tells you when to stop eating, when to start exercising and what kinds of food you want to have.
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@Dustcan  
Yes, I’m talking deaths per 100k. Your comment did say “…sounds like Cuomo has done a pretty good job keeping his constituents alive.”
 
Though if the death rates are oversimplifying so would be using infection rates.
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“When will we finally have to admit that we have a fundamental problem here in Europe to bring all parties together and to promote full, honest and enlightened integration?”
 
Now, as can be seen from my answer to phoenixacezero’s reply, we still have to ask ourselves (although we are here on a pony-loving site) as individual people the question: What is racism? Where does this come from? What is the reason for this and the various previous theses (outside Germany - because we have been deliberately avoiding this for decades, to the great suffering of society, which has also been able to develop violent parallel cultures) and how can this be reconciled with yourself and your everyday life at all?
 
Well, indirectly, I have a clear answer to this question, although it may now be very controversial. Unfortunately, I can only justify my statements by honest, but presumably regarded as left German sources so far. Although these are in line with public law. But I make an effort to remain as scientific as possible. Because, after the Second World War, we Europeans simply did not want to deal with the problems of racism.
 
France has not questioned the collaboration of the Vichy regime, nor has the Jewish question been questioned in nations allied with Nazi Germany, such as Hungary or Romania. Or the question of the gypsies (Sinti/Roma). Nor was it critically questioned why the US allowed only 115,000 Jews to enter before 1939 (due to anti-German suspicions, because they could be spies), or why 53% of the Americans surveyed found Jews to be different, and thought that they should be excluded. I don’t want to start here with the English or the French.
 
Since after 1945 we are subject to the general myth that the Allies alone are the good ones and the Germans alone are the bad ones (which they were in this context, and no, I do not want to embellish the regime of the National Socialists here), and with the Russian Communists already the next global enemy is clear, the question of systematic racism was concealed.
 
So if already after the Second World War, the war, in which, among other things, it is clearly about racism, the question of racism could not be clarified (or wanted to be clarified), how much we, the next generations, have to suffer from the question of why this is practically until the end of the Soviet Union, although in the meantime we have also experienced the problems of the Korean and Vietnam wars, was postponed.
 
Even after the Vietnam War, the intra-US-American question was postponed in the sense that economic and anti-communist issues were more important. It was not until the 1990s, in my opinion, that European racism began to be reconsidered. Here in Germany this was caused by the ignition of asylum homes. And, of course, the world was shocked at the extent of the Serb genocide in the wars of Yugoslavia. However, I do not think that this has changed anything. There was still the fact that racism exists only partially and can only be controlled.
 
Even after September 11th, a social attitude towards us (democratic West) developed against a religious-radical-motivated enemy, instead of asking ourselves whether fundamental questions are not really open here. We want to believe that our democratic values alone are enough to be able to draw a clear line where racism and fanaticism, and where we stand as “enlightened” people in Western democracies. But the exact opposite is true.
 
If we can learn from our enemies, then it is the weakness of our own democratic and secular systems to be able to integrate those people who are (yet) a minority, but who are and must be part of our everyday lives. A woman wearing a headscarf must be accepted and valued in today’s society. A girl who wears a headscarf but does not want to participate in sports and swimming must be an open point for discussion.
 
Here, too, I very clearly expect the Western Muslim community to be prepared to commit itself to Western, democratic and constitutionally well-defined goals. Without a Western Islam, but also without an understanding and reconciliation with Judaism, I cannot distinguish at best any European and/or Western coexistence. The ball is in the middle, so to speak, but nobody wants to play with it.
 
Because previous political generations are far too cowardly to tell the truth. The truth that hurts everyone, not just whites or blacks, but religions and all those who no longer have confidence in their respective governments. Don’t be so cowardly! And please do not take your own political agenda so seriously that you can no longer be willing to compromise. With this statement, I clearly distance myself from my own green political agenda. I have a lot to gain from pacifism. But letting our own soldiers die abroad, just because they don’t get proper military equipment, is a personal no-go to me.
 
For me, racism and political ideology belong in the same pot. Anyone who claims to belong only to a certain political group, but denies everyday or systematic racism, or denies that religious and anti-state resentment is part of everyday political life, is, in my opinion, deliberately ignoring the internal and external political fabrications. And “Buahaha, Socialism!” isn’t a concrete answer to why things are still so fucked up these days.
 
I’m sorry about this wall of text, but I think it had to be said once. I wonder anyway, who is willing to read this, or who just says: Oh, the DarkObsidian, who is probably just a stupid boomer anyway, and has no idea. Funny fact, I belong to the late generation X (1980). And sometimes I wonder if it is not up to us to have to mediate here between all the different parties right now. In the fight against social bubbles and total ignorance of the core points of the problems. Just because someone feels attacked again in their personal religious or political matter.
 
I would like to be able to express myself politically without reference to my generation or nationality. But it’s almost impossible these days. I have to live with this stigma, yet I allow myself a controversial opinion about the everyday shit, which is generalized in particular by ideologically indoctrinated people and media. And that even though Corona-chan wants to fuck us all.
 
Have fun with your personal devotion. Personally, I just think that political cowardice or conservative adherence to the status quo leads nowhere. Except for constant supersession mechanism.
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It’s weird how both sides have forgotten they existed and what they did (amongst other major left-wing violent attacks). The right remembers how dangerous lefties used to be, but can’t put a name to the likes of Weather Underground or SDS or the RFA (or pretend that leftist-inspired groups like the IRA “weren’t really left-wing!”), hence their pathological hatred and fear of socialism/communism; while the left either plays the tu quoque game, acts like they didn’t exist, or downplays what they did in terms of terrorist acts.
 
@Zincy
 
Not only that, but I’d also argue that easy access to porn, like easy access to abortion has a positive correlation to criminality, in that it’s presence lowers the latter.
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@Dustcan  
No problem. I agree with you though that simply looking at the infection rate or death rate and then blaming whoever is in charge is oversimplifying it. A lot of other variables are at play that they can’t control.
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Who the duck is 50 Cent and why is it a big deal he’s endorsing Trump?
 
Normally I’d just do an eye-roll at Celeb endorsements of politicians but this fella seems to be stirring up some shit.
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I’ll murder them
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He became a meme over his own self portrayals as a brutish thug, including in videogames where you’d play as him.
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@CaptainXtra
 
A discussion about your subjects is like a game of pong. Up, down, back and forth, and in the end, nobody cares about the result. But it’s not your fault. Nowadays, an opinion should simply consist of one or two sentences. No offense. ;-)
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If you’re a celeb it doesn’t matter who you support. If you come out with it you’re going to lose (and gain) fans.  
Though it does happen more often to people who support right side people, ideas, etc. since the left controls the entertainment industry (go look what happened to Lee Ermey after he opposed Obama).
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