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That’ll be your error. I’ll hold absolutely NONE of the blame. Lesser of 2 evils voting for the past 40 years has been a championing of mediocrity and sinking standards, letting increasingly shitty candidates who think they have what it takes to govern the nation take a crack at running it deeper into the ground, and enabling Trump to make a serious bid. Joe “nothing will change” Biden sucks. He’s just diet-Trump, and any running candidate owes voters so much more than clearing a hurdle by just shuffling.
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@Vivace  
And how does announcing that you don’t care who wins in November change any of that? Why should anyone accommodate your policy preferences when you’ve already checked out of the general?
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You should also vote for the FGC9 and the Liberator 12k, because the more leftists are armed, the harder it’ll be for the anti-gunners to claim that gun rights are a partisan issue. Here’s to hoping the aforementioned additive-manufactured guns are completed by the time the DNC rolls around, and the Chapo Trap House fans keep to their promise of Bernie gets the nomination or we riot! eh?
 
It’ll be interesting to see how the left in America reacts this time around when Trump (possibly) wins again and Bernie bros tell the moderates to get fucked and that they don’t owe Biden anything…
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You should also vote for the FGC9 and the Liberator 12k, because the more leftists are armed, the harder it’ll be for the anti-gunners to claim that gun rights are a partisan issue. Here’s to hoping the aforementioned additive-manufactured guns are completed by the time the DNC rolls around, and the Chapo Trap House fans keep to their promise of Bernie gets the nomination or we riot! eh?
 
You know, I never had a whole lot of respect for your pro-gun positions, but actively wishing for leftists to engage in armed rebellion just so you’d feel validated in them is a new low, even for you. Seriously, I have no words…
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Well they’re pretty shitty leftists if they don’t have armed rebellion on the table. Do libertarians, survivalists, Unabombers, Christian families [allegedly] shortening the barrels of shotguns, Branch Davidians, NeoNazis, and sovereign citizens own the rights to armed rebellion? If you excuse punching Nazis, then why not expand it to shoot Nazis?
 
Also, what would leftists with guns validate to me, someone who realises that due to advances in technology gun control is pointless? I already have friendly dealings with the likes of Redneck Revolt, Pink Pistols, the Huey P. Newton Gun Club/Black Panthers, and the Socialist Rifle Association, so armed leftists are already present and am glad for their contributions to the gun-rights movement. My question is what do you have against armed leftists?
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@MethidMan  
I think he has to realize that life isn’t fair. Bernie Sanders has all but lost the 2020 election. There is no point in denying the obvious. Joe Biden whether you love him or hate him is more electable than Bernie Sanders when it comes to beating Donald Trump. Donald Trump went as far as getting impeached to stop Joe Biden. Its pretty clear who he sees as a threat.
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Trump went after Biden because there was obvious dirt to dig up. I think Trump would have pulled the same stunt for any of the major candidates if he he the opportunity.
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Biden was such an easy target with what his was doing and how he reacted.
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Democracy is about compromise, and damn this obsession with “only my ideals should win” nonsense.
 
Its not “the lesser of two evils”, its understanding that you are literally just one of millions, and in the grand scheme of thing only mass movement matters.
 
Compromise and decorum have become dirty words.
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@Natry  
Donald Trump didn’t give a rats ass about Joe Biden until Joe Biden announced his run for office and then all of a sudden Donald Trump who didn’t care for all about Ukraine or corruption started to care about it out of nowhere. His personal attorney Rudy started looking for dirt despite the fact that the US has a department for that. Rudy then began claiming he found evidence of corruption on the Bidens yet never showed anything despite the months he spent nosing around in Ukraine. @Hali the Emoji girl  
Can you link it?
 
What would you like a link to?
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Trump reportedly drops large sums of money to a German company to develop a Covid-19 vaccine…but only for the US.
 
Unlock to unpack there, ranging from Mr. “America First” paying non-Americans instead investing in American scientists, to the callousness of wanting to withhold a vaccine from the rest of the world.
 
Fox News fires anchor who called the Coronavirus a Democrat conspiracy.
 
Congratulations on passing the incredibly low bar of firing some no-name nobody for such dangerous gaslighting. Now what about Hannity for his own Coronavirus gaslighting or Tucker Carlson for his Coronavirus dogwhistling?
 
Edit: And voters are split on Trump’s handling of the pandemic.
 
Take a wild guess on how opinions are split along party lines.
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Edit: And voters are split on Trump’s handling of the pandemic.
Take a wild guess on how opinions are split along party lines.
I can’t say I’m even remotely surprised. It’s been apparent for a while now that Trump could start every one of his campaign rallies off by strangling a puppy to death on stage and eating it, and his base would still think he was the greatest thing in the history of the world.
 
I just wish I knew what level of failure it would take to make them wake up and finally realize what kind of person they’re actually supporting here.
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I just wish I knew what level of failure it would take to make them wake up and finally realize what kind of person they’re actually supporting here.
The answer is whatever it would take for Fox News to turn on him.
I know it sounds trite but I’m serious. The overwhelming majority of right wing voters are reported to get thei news from Fox - around 80% last I heard. So when you hear about the latest thing from the Republican propaganda network you’re of course gonna hear about how great Dear Leader handled it. Or more specifically, you won’t hear about the thing Trump bungled on, or if you do it’ll be only after Fox ran it through a damage control spin.
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But the KeltecPony told me that either Moderna or another US biotech company had already developed a vaccine and was in human trials?! Why would they need a German-developed vaccine?
 
In all seriousness hoarding a vaccine is retarded, because the more people vaccinated, the stronger herd immunity is. It’s why the US in the past helped immunise large parts of the world from measles for example.
 
Not only that, but the health of the US economy depends on the health of foreign economies as well to sell goods and services to. Unless Trump wants to add $3-4 trillion dollars to the already $22 trillion dollar debt, he would want everyone to start getting better sooner rather than later; even if it meant starting with America and then rolling the vaccine out worldwide.
 
Also, what happens with the anti-vaxxers? In the rest of the world it’s easier legally to compulsorily vaccinate people, but am not sure they can legally do that in the US…at least not without an assload of lawsuits coming from the anti-vaxxers after the fact.
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@Ebalosus  
You are talking about a man who leads a party that thinks in transactions. This outbreak is exposing who Trump and The Republican Party really are. A group that only cares about self interest. I’m not really surprised Trump would do this to be honest he is notorious for being a scum bag in America. He made a brand of being a horrible person; but many people mostly his base either can’t tell when he is putting on an act or being serious. Or they know he is a bad guy and only protect him because he is doing what they want. Deregulation, tax cuts, being “God” back into our lives (Even though it clearly violates the separation of Church and State) and bias Conservative judges. Trump is just an icon a puppet for the conservatives to rally behind and then scapegoat him when things go south for them like the Nazis did to Hitler when they were on trial.
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I swear to god this Coronavirus better not allow the Horrid EARN IT Act to slip by and pass without any outrage.
 
Fucking Governments never let a good crisis go to waste to get their shady shit done since the general populace is too distracted to protest.
 
Graham and Blumenthal are two boomers I don’t mind seeing be removed permanently by this virus.
 
(I don’t mean the virus killing them outright mods, just making them resign/quit from their position so don’t go crazy).
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I wonder. Under the rules of succession, if the VP is made president then does he get to choose his own VP? Or will he have to wait until the next election?
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@Dustcan  
Until the 25th amendment was passed in 1967, the vice-presidency used to remain vacant after the VP succeeded the president.  
Gerald Ford nominated Nelson Rockefeller as VP shortly after he replaced Nixon and he was confirmed by the Congress and sworn in four months later.
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The Democratic debate will begin shortly.
 
Edit: Right off the bat Biden pulled a “My time is up.”
 
Edit 2: Biden: “With all due respect MFA will not work. Instead we should provide free testing. Provide free treatment. Provide free counseling. That’s how we’ll beat the coronavirus.”
 
Edit: 3: Oh damn. Bernie just called Biden out to his face on taking money from Big Pharma. Biden immediately turned to give Bernie the stink eye, and Biden’s rebuttal audibly took a much lower and angrier tone.
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