Seiken 
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> "proud to be an American"
Thats generally a weird mindset, many people proclaim proud to be X when X is something they most of the time had no part in, most of the time things that are born into or are a result of their environment: citizenship, race, sexuality are among the most common things that i don't get how someone can take pride into? Being an unapologetic gay, sure. Being a proud gay? Why?
I only take pride in things i worked towards to, that are a result of my efforts. And paying my taxes doesn't make me proud of my country.
> "proud to be an American"
Thats generally a weird mindset, many people proclaim proud to be X when X is something they most of the time had no part in, most of the time things that are born into or are a result of their environment: citizenship, race, sexuality are among the most common things that i don't get how someone can take pride into? Being an unapologetic gay, sure. Being a proud gay? Why?
I only take pride in things i worked towards to, that are a result of my efforts. And paying my taxes doesn't make me proud of my country.