Violet Rose in The Rain 
[@silbasa](/forums/generals/topics/tartarus?post_id=5156690#post_5156690)
[Earlier this year, Sharon Hill Borough cops opened fire on a crowd leaving a football stadium, killing 8-year-old Fanta Bility.](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/da-nearly-certain-that-cops-returning-gunfire-killed-girl-during-h-s-game/2973090/)
[The following video on Twitter shows Minneapolis police officers firing less-lethal weapons at people on Lake Street from their unmarked white van–without identifying themselves as law enforcement or issuing warnings or commands.](https://t.co/3QOFMmkTGf)
There's a difference between "sometimes slipping up" and deliberately firing on the civilians you swore to protect.
[And for the record, I know that spiel about rising crime rates in cities with defunded police forces is bullshit.](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/police-arresting-fewer-people-for-minor-offenses-can-help-reduce-police-shootings/amp/)
> These efforts are all part of a shift that has been underway in America’s largest cities for a number of years now. But despite the effect these changes have had in reducing violent encounters with the police, these efforts have still experienced significant backlash, particularly from some in law enforcement who have blamed rising murder rates on police “pulling back” and being “defunded.” This criticism has intensified as murder rates have risen, even though most cities’ police budgets [weren’t cut by much in 2021](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-city-budget-police-funding/) and [murders still ticked up](https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-crime-spike-police-funding-20210610-graeysr24zapbkvpsbhvlfiakm-story.html) in cities that increased their police budgets.
[Myth #2: Defunding Will Lead to Disorder](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2021/05/19/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/amp/)
> Another misconception is that police forces are what maintains order. However, studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are [equity in education and infrastructure.](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/06/19/what-does-defund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/) Indeed, research shows that lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations.
[@Backgroundpony](/forums/generals/topics/tartarus?post_id=5156718#post_5156718)
> YOU not finding any evidence means nothing. It is NOT OUR job to find and evaluate the evidences.
>*makes a claim*
>*refuses to back it up*
>*places the proof of burden on the one who asked and tell them to "do your own research"*
You sound like an antivaxxer to me, but what would I know?
As a side note, me saying, "Black American teenagers have been killed for far less than what Kyle has done" and you hearing "I want both black and white innocent people killed" sounds like a **you** problem.
[Earlier this year, Sharon Hill Borough cops opened fire on a crowd leaving a football stadium, killing 8-year-old Fanta Bility.](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/da-nearly-certain-that-cops-returning-gunfire-killed-girl-during-h-s-game/2973090/)
[The following video on Twitter shows Minneapolis police officers firing less-lethal weapons at people on Lake Street from their unmarked white van–without identifying themselves as law enforcement or issuing warnings or commands.](https://t.co/3QOFMmkTGf)
There's a difference between "sometimes slipping up" and deliberately firing on the civilians you swore to protect.
[And for the record, I know that spiel about rising crime rates in cities with defunded police forces is bullshit.](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/police-arresting-fewer-people-for-minor-offenses-can-help-reduce-police-shootings/amp/)
> These efforts are all part of a shift that has been underway in America’s largest cities for a number of years now. But despite the effect these changes have had in reducing violent encounters with the police, these efforts have still experienced significant backlash, particularly from some in law enforcement who have blamed rising murder rates on police “pulling back” and being “defunded.” This criticism has intensified as murder rates have risen, even though most cities’ police budgets [weren’t cut by much in 2021](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-city-budget-police-funding/) and [murders still ticked up](https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-crime-spike-police-funding-20210610-graeysr24zapbkvpsbhvlfiakm-story.html) in cities that increased their police budgets.
[Myth #2: Defunding Will Lead to Disorder](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2021/05/19/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/amp/)
> Another misconception is that police forces are what maintains order. However, studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are [equity in education and infrastructure.](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/06/19/what-does-defund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/) Indeed, research shows that lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations.
[@Backgroundpony](/forums/generals/topics/tartarus?post_id=5156718#post_5156718)
> YOU not finding any evidence means nothing. It is NOT OUR job to find and evaluate the evidences.
>*makes a claim*
>*refuses to back it up*
>*places the proof of burden on the one who asked and tell them to "do your own research"*
You sound like an antivaxxer to me, but what would I know?
As a side note, me saying, "Black American teenagers have been killed for far less than what Kyle has done" and you hearing "I want both black and white innocent people killed" sounds like a **you** problem.