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> [Radicalising a Normie - Check the comments.":](https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g) [/bq]
I watched the video all the way, he has a lot of good points.
it is a almost great video on radicalization but I feel that its talking from a stupidly biased point with alot of bad arguments against the "other side" take out like 30 mins of "my side" fluff and it would be awesome, lots of arguments about how gabe can be pushed so far to cause violence and acts of terror is very true!
I do not think nazi jokes are the problem that push someone all the way into radicalism as he pointed out. it is the isolation of the individual with nowhere to go but further down.
it is used by both sides. radicalism can be "my race is better then yours lets go kill x".
we see it on both sides black superiority is a more left movement to get rid of whiteness in culture, just as much as white superiority is a right movement to get rid of blackness.
there is bad actors the riots now for example, are not right leaning people causing them (I know the video was made before it) and you can go down a one side only rabbit hole, that "this is fine that this is happening because x reason".
it is not. but, I see people argue for it every day.
like gabe you can like a few parts like censorship of nazis (whatever the definition of that is now cus a big talking point of the actors in the video to nazi radicalization was a jewish person) but disavow the riots but you need to know what is wrong and get away from your onion and understand both arguments and make your own assumption.
I read both media left and right and I make my own decisions based on what both provide and people need to do that before it goes to charlottesville or seattle levels of violence and bigotry against the race, sexuality or national origin.
you can hold moderate views without being down a rabbit hole. like my point of view of immigration is that its great but do it legally, legally you wont have exploitation of low wages, but legalizing everyone that broke the law to get here is not the way to get there, because there are violent people and exploitation that we dont want but it isnt all or even most.
a reasonable argument but people yell at me all the time that im racist against "undocumented workers" from the left and from the right I get told to keep the us in mind and have our own people work first.
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> [Radicalising a Normie - Check the comments.
I watched the video all the way, he has a lot of good points.
it is a almost great video on radicalization but I feel that its talking from a stupidly biased point with alot of bad arguments against the "other side" take out like 30 mins of "my side" fluff and it would be awesome, lots of arguments about how gabe can be pushed so far to cause violence and acts of terror is very true!
I do not think nazi jokes are the problem that push someone all the way into radicalism as he pointed out. it is the isolation of the individual with nowhere to go but further down.
it is used by both sides. radicalism can be "my race is better then yours lets go kill x".
we see it on both sides black superiority is a more left movement to get rid of whiteness in culture, just as much as white superiority is a right movement to get rid of blackness.
there is bad actors the riots now for example, are not right leaning people causing them (I know the video was made before it) and you can go down a one side only rabbit hole, that "this is fine that this is happening because x reason".
it is not. but, I see people argue for it every day.
like gabe you can like a few parts like censorship of nazis (whatever the definition of that is now cus a big talking point of the actors in the video to nazi radicalization was a jewish person) but disavow the riots but you need to know what is wrong and get away from your onion and understand both arguments and make your own assumption.
I read both media left and right and I make my own decisions based on what both provide and people need to do that before it goes to charlottesville or seattle levels of violence and bigotry against the race, sexuality or national origin.
you can hold moderate views without being down a rabbit hole. like my point of view of immigration is that its great but do it legally, legally you wont have exploitation of low wages, but legalizing everyone that broke the law to get here is not the way to get there, because there are violent people and exploitation that we dont want but it isnt all or even most.
a reasonable argument but people yell at me all the time that im racist against "undocumented workers" from the left and from the right I get told to keep the us in mind and have our own people work first.