Patachu 
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an excellent argument indeed, you want borders, and some control to prevent a corporation to say
«Okay the workforce is too expensive here I'm gonna outsource to India and close»
fine, you can close, people here will be hired somewhere else to manufacture things you were providing. Because we will make sure you can not sell your low cost shit here at the detriment of the workforce, that's the rules.
Yep, that's protectionism, and I agree, that's how a lot of countries works.
«I'm a capitalist, there's corn growing on that field literally for free, I'm gonna pick it and make profit»
Law: «Nope this is someone's property. That's not capitalism until you pay the owner of the field the price he demands.»
«I'm a capitalist, I'm gonna open a factory and try not to get my workers paid, 100% profits!»
Law: «That's slavery and it's illegal. In capitalism you pay your emplopyees with their part of the benefits.»
So yes, there are laws that allows the market to work, normally, except when you have a government filled with lobbyists, like with Bayer/Monsanto, Huwawei for the 5G, the press and media also are lobbyists.
Corporations will see a lot of benefits possible if the state regulation form a very liberal-left government are pushing.
That's crony capitalism you will say, but it's not capitalism when the state is behind with **your** tax money, it's literally the definition of socialism. When liberals says corporations equals people, they don't think in term of human resources, they think in terms that corporations can be funded or helped with your tax money, even if you don't use them or want to buy from them.
This also, is a thing, and why there must be a clear difference between public and private. Public : the state funds it with your money and allow zero profits, only benefits for the population. Private : people choose.
an excellent argument indeed, you want borders, and some control to prevent a corporation to say
«Okay the workforce is too expensive here I'm gonna outsource to India and close»
fine, you can close, people here will be hired somewhere else to manufacture things you were providing. Because we will make sure you can not sell your low cost shit here at the detriment of the workforce, that's the rules.
Yep, that's protectionism, and I agree, that's how a lot of countries works.
«I'm a capitalist, there's corn growing on that field literally for free, I'm gonna pick it and make profit»
Law: «Nope this is someone's property. That's not capitalism until you pay the owner of the field the price he demands.»
«I'm a capitalist, I'm gonna open a factory and try not to get my workers paid, 100% profits!»
Law: «That's slavery and it's illegal. In capitalism you pay your emplopyees with their part of the benefits.»
So yes, there are laws that allows the market to work, normally, except when you have a government filled with lobbyists, like with Bayer/Monsanto, Huwawei for the 5G, the press and media also are lobbyists.
Corporations will see a lot of benefits possible if the state regulation form a very liberal-left government are pushing.
That's crony capitalism you will say, but it's not capitalism when the state is behind with **your** tax money, it's literally the definition of socialism. When liberals says corporations equals people, they don't think in term of human resources, they think in terms that corporations can be funded or helped with your tax money, even if you don't use them or want to buy from them.
This also, is a thing, and why there must be a clear difference between public and private. Public : the state funds it with your money and allow zero profits, only benefits for the population. Private : people choose.