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So you also wanted the movies to be about the OG cast and for them to never pass the torch to a newer generation, or thinks that the problems with Ray are because she was made to target women/girls and not because of bad writing?
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@Meanlucario  
They had the Beatles back together and then had them make solo albums. The OG cast never even got to meet back up once.
 
The lack of an overall plan for the story hurt it. After the first movie the new director came in and threw out everything the first movie set up. When that did not work the old guy was brought back in again to omit the second movie and take up the reins from the first one again and had to compress 2 movies into 1. This all resulted in the obliteration of the OG characters and for me an experience of overall very poor quality.
 
Rey. The actress is capable but the poor writing comes back to haunt the character. Not really an arc to speak of. Extremely powerful. (She can do everything instinctively, even raise the dead…) Rey was a multitool they used with their lazy writing to solve everything. And all the other characters are just useless most of the time. I never got into any of the new sequel characters because of this.
 
It’s overall a very shoddy piece of work the whole thing really.
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Star Wars Visions is really good.  
But honestly don’t see why most of these can’t be canon.  
Yeah there’s some that break the mechanics like || Hyperdrive Lightsaber cut || but most of them can fit fairly easy into continuity.
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@Meanlucario  
Well first of all I don’t like the this canon baggage thing you’re talking about I don’t see it as an issue with way vast the SW Universe is which bring it to the next point.  
Secondly as I said most of them can fit there’s only like three of these nine shorts that have issues that might make it hard fitting in so this “canon baggage” argument you’re pushing is already bullshit.
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@Darth Prime  
I think the creators rather have people talking about the works as they are rather than trying to place them on a canon tier list, unlike Lucasgames. It’s no worst than homebrewing in a TTRPG, only this homebrew has the support of the source material.
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Also, canon and fandom’s version of Jedis are very different, so that’s a factor.
 
I don’t see what that has to do with.  
Especially since Jedi are depicted very well in these so cute what the fuck is your point?  
Also it’s Jedi as the plural(bet you say “ninjas” as well).
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@Darth Prime  
Just because it feels like SW doesn’t mean it fits with the universe. Remember when Starkiller defeated Darth Vader and he turned him into the Rebels?
 
Because I got the impression that Jedi and Sith are in these shorts and said shorts take place during the Empire. There’s also how strict the orders were that may bring issue if trying to make a short anime involving them with canon’s version (I’m talking about Lucas’s version of Jedi).
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Just because it feels like SW doesn’t mean it fits with the universe.
 
That is the absolute dumbest thing I have ever seen you say.
 
And no not all of these are around the Empire/Clone Wars there is one that seems more High Republic era that is Jedi vs Sith and another one that felt like it could fit circa KOTOR 2.  
Like I’ve actually watched these and as I keep saying most of them (not all) can work in canon.  
And the Jedi here are depicted well as part of the overall themes of Star Wars and I mean the individual Jedi not as the Order as like stuff Prequel Jedi Order that you call “Lucas Jedi”.
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@Darth Prime  
I said “Lucas Jedi” since that’s the canon version, both in Disney and Legends. Them being heroes was always EU, but fans were determined that was the “canon” version despite what the Prequels (the top tier of canon base on the canon tier list of Legends) show.
 
I think you may have spent too much time in Legends’s EU, where writers had practically to write whatever they wanted. Or are you going to say that Force-sensitive rocks and the Yuuzhan Vong fit neatly into the movie’s version of Star Wars? Not just Disney’s, but Lucas’s as well.
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@Meanlucario  
Alright I think we’re getting off track here cause you’re bringing up stuff not relevant here from Legends as if to try and undercut me.
 
So let’s try and focus on what are actually points are.
 
My point is what I’m trying to say is: I really liked these it was something Star Wars that I like I like Star Wars so when I see something SW that I enjoy I wish to express that enjoyment and with these shorts they were good the understood SW they depicted it right and I wish to express disappointment that some of them can fit in canon but are not canon that is unfortunate.  
Tatooine Rhapsody, The Village Bride, The Ninth Jedi, The Elder, Lop & Ochō, and maybe The Duel if you “squint” a bit can fit, were all excellent and felt like they fit the universe as if their creators really wanted them to, as if canon was NOT a constraint.  
And even the ones were it’s tricky or impossible to be canon are still good as well.  
The Village Bride especially had me actually tearing up at just how well it got and depicted the themes of Star Wars I felt such joy at seeing the series depicted so spot on.
 
Now what’s your point?  
Cause it seems like you’re trying to tell me it’s a bad thing to think or want these shorts to be canon.
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@Darth Prime  
If enough people like something, it’ll become canon. Like Clone Wars. It really doesn’t fit, but enough people liked it so much that now it’s squeezed in.  
I think Visions is a bit like the old Star Wars Tales comics, plenty of those stories could fit into canon easily.  
Even Skippy the Jedi Droid. Yes that’s a real character.
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Gonna take a nap. Later maybe I’ll watch this one. Last Jedi surprised me, it’s definitely not my favorite Star Wars movie, but I’m glad I watched it.  
I don’t think this one will surprise me.
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