Gun Discussion

What you would guys prefer: An Gewehr 41 (Any of the two models) or a AVS-36. By any choice (aesthetically, method of operation, mainteance, power, magazine capacity, etc…)
 
I hope this it’s not the wrong forum.

@FliegerFaustToP47  
Of the two, the AVS-36 uses ammunition that is less expensive and easier to find currently in the US. It also has greater magazine capacity and the happy switch. So that’s the one I’d go for, of the two.
 
My favorite mid-20th Century milsurp that I actually own is a Chinese “Para Model” SKS with the 16” barrel and a very silly, very short, folding spike bayonet.

@Background Pony #DFEF
 
Oh, the Chinese Norinco SKS? Yeah, I’ve heard of those, they are considered a cheaper alternative to the Russian SKS model. Often users that have both tend to leave the Russian as original and tacticool the Chinese one…
 
To be honest, if I had to choose, i would go for the G.41 to sell and the AVS-36 to keep. G.41 are rather costly.
 
^{Really my last comment was from 15 days ago? Damn, this thread it’s dead as Fokker}

@FliegerFaustToP47  
>tacticooling ing an SKS  
[disdain for plebs intensifies]

@Background Pony #DFEF
 
Oh no, I’m a pleb! Jk. But seriously, i was doing an observation xD.
 
People try to do this:
 

 
And end up doing this:
 
 

 
Don’t let that happen to your SKS!

Here’s the problem with hollowpoints
 

@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ  
Most gunfights will be within a few feet of you though.

@MagpulPony  
Not in Texas.

@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ  
Why? Are long range Mujahideen ambushes common in Texas?

@Background Pony #5252  
Highways.

@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ  
I always figured that if the fight wasn’t taking place at conversational distance, there’s probably time to get out a rifle.

@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ
 
Hmm… I thought Jacketed Hollow Points rounds were to cause more damage to unarmoured targets, and the Full Metal Jacket for armoured ones. Either way, any gunfight that exceeds 100-250m range it’s usually rifle business, you bring a pistol to those if you want to become Chrysalis legs…

@Background Pony #AA1F  
Against unarmored threats, you always want hollowpoints.

@MagpulPony
 
I do realize that, but we’re talking about America, the land of weapons and war gizmos, you may be continually firing your M1911 pistol with hollowpoints and this dude that looks like an SWAT Bomb Disposal or a Bulldozer from Payday comes in and decides to ruin your day.
 
 
Long story short, you may be better with both rounds (FMJ & JHP, like PB & J) just in case, but the JHP rounds will be most likely your first choice, unless, of course, you’re facing an entire platoon of SEAL’s, in which case… prepare your anus…

@Background Pony #AA1F  
There’s already a hole in my leg. And a pistol is all I got!

@Background Pony #AA1F  
Modern soft body armor is pretty resistant to handgun ammo as a rule, with exceptions like 5.7mm, the super high velocity Swedish steel-jacketed 9mm SMG ammo you sometimes hear about, and not many others. With, for example, .45 ACP, bullet construction doesn’t matter much against kevlar, barring exotic ammo types not readily available over the counter in the US. If someone trying to kill you is wearing body armor, you need a rifle–lots of people complain about 5.56mm M855 steel-core not fragmenting in blocks of ballistic gelatin, but everybody sure does love how well it punches through kevlar–or to aim at unprotected portions of his body.
 
@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ  
No truck gun? If someone wants me dead badly enough to make his attempt from a quarter mile with a scoped rifle, I do not anticipate that carrying a handgun or wearing body armor will do much for my chances. Fortunately that doesn’t seem to be a common tactic among street hoodlums.

@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ
 
Why don’t you use the landscape for your advantage then? Pistols are no good on long distances, so sneak, hide, take cover, and shoot and scoot. Be an strategist, plan, be the GLA.
 
And yes, i realize we are not in “Michael Bay. The Movie”, but strategies can be a tide turner, especially agaisnt a guy that just has a rifle and nothing else to do on his free time…

@Background Pony #DFEF
 
Aren’t big military rifles illegal in América anyways? I’ve heard that battle-caliber automatic guns are technically illegal. Only AR-15 styles for hunting.
 
Also, when did America become ‘The purge’?

@Background Pony #DFEF
 
*Coughs in the direction of the Dagny Dagger*

@FliegerFaustToP47  
Disclaimer: I might be wrong, please correct me.  
IIRC federally all calibers are legal up to. 0.5 in (~12.7 mm) because above that they are considered to be destructive devices unless they have a sporting purpose. Not sure what do you mean by automatic. Semi-automatic guns are legal. Fully automatic rifles are illegal unless registered before the ban.
 
Now, that’s federal law. But states may have their own weird additional rules.

@FliegerFaustToP47  
Depends on the license. You can legally own a 20mm Vulcan rotary cannon in the US afterall.

@MagpulPony  
You need to own a gun store or a gun manufacturing company, right? Or are we talking about a semi-auto gun registered as a DD?

@Background Pony #5252  
There are actually a handful owned by ordinary civilians. As long as you buy them from a federally licensed dealer and its a pre 1986 weapon, you can own it.

@MagpulPony  
God I wish you were in Texas with me.

@ᏰᎯᎠᎻᎬᎯᏒᎿ  
Yeah me too. I’ll probably be heading to Nevada though.