Gun Discussion

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@TagAnon
There are rare examples of semi-auto revolvers. The most famous one is the Webley-Fosbery(UK). And there is this Italian one which I don't remember it's name.
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@Namalsk
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I'm pretty sure there's a certain military which uses them in tiny numbers. I do agree that it's a completely useless weapon, though.

That's because they created it. It would be like the US dropping the M14 and M16. Won't happen, no matter how much better crap comes out. It's like tradition to use it. Ditto Germans and Lugers/H&K. They will instead try to re-engineer a new technology to fit an old design.

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@SeraphimDawn
The DORA is actually feasible, but nazi engineers approached things the wrong way. If the Soviets had the gun fetish you would have seen Shagohods all over. Germans kept throwing too much damn armour on everything, rendering every tank after the Panther a mobile pillbox, while both necessity and commands from above forced soviet engineers to get the same performance out of a fifth of the materials. A Soviet DORA would probably be un-railed and have its own turret. The IS4 got roughly the same performance as the Maus but weighed only 50 tons. Also if you ever wanted an argument for competition and contracts over nationalisation and 'favouritism,' Porsche basically kept pumping out the same engine out for every damn tank ever, which made ponderously slow tanks even slower since they were far overweight already. So a Soviet-made DORA would probably be like a turreted Sturmmorser (and around the same weight as Maus, would likely not carry many rounds on its own to prevent assaults by planes, extra rounds would be on supply trucks or towed by smaller vehicles), but as wide as those mining excavators to offset PSI.
Granted, those advancements all came about because Stalin was like "MAKE IT FASTER/LIGHTER WITHOUT SACRIFICING A SINGLE THING, OR I SHOOT YOU" while Hitler would loiter around and pester his designers and basically act like a teenager watching one of the Great Old Beards coding, and the nervousness and stress would lead to them giving him impressive looking shit that couldn't really work.
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@Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Ever heard of the Landkruezer tank?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2O5qJDtvM0

Such tank was too massive to become reality, especially when their resources were stretched to the limit.
To think the Nazis also drew up plans to mount the DORA on a super massive tank similar to the Landkruezer. What were they smoking?
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@SeraphimDawn
Yep. If the soviets had discovered that design in '43 before air power became more of a deciding factor, I think we'd have seen one. They already had a tank half that size (but mostly hollow) that had 3 turrets. Basically an 'infantry support platform'
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Hey I'm in the market for a smexy handgun.

Looking for something relatively lightweight but fairly powerful. What would you guys recommend?
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I hate it when guns are made/used for the purpose of killing people but as an avid outdoorsman I understand the need for a gun for the purpose of self defense and survival.
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@SeraphimDawn
One thing I just don't understand is the 21 gun salute at a funeral. Here there are people crying over the death of someone so hey why don't they fire off devices that cause death and funerals?
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@someguy111
But that's in the same vein as a sword arch at any given procession: military honors. Though this is sometimes extended to police, not just anybody gets one.

And for the modern 21 gun salute, I'm pretty sure they're only shooting blanks these days since a bullet shot into the air will come down with consequences.
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@someguy111
A tool, regardless of occupation, is often a symbol of an occupation. A sword is as much a killing tool (and weapon of war) as a rifle. Thus they both have military symbolism.

Any reasonable and/or decent individual in the military won't want to kill, but that's their job if they're called to do it.

Why use death to celebrate death? The old 'live by the sword; die by the sword' adage comes to mind, though I don't know if that's actually relevant. Symbols differ by culture too, and this is just Modern Western culture.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE-I5ggwDAI
The Japanese Arisaka rifle.

Can anyone identify the music used for the video? It sounds familiar, but I just can't make out what it is.
Thanks.
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Would someone please mind telling me why people think guns are so cool? Is it some kind of instant gratification to suddenly wield something so powerful? Does it make you feel like a man? Do you enjoy the concept of killing? Is it something hammered into our minds as children watching action heroes telling us that guns make us cool? I just don't understand.
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@someguy111
If you'll never understand, then why do you even bother to ask?
And yes, I do enjoy the concept of executing those who ask annoying questions they've already decided how they want answered, thanks. :D
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@someguy111
Oh. You were kind of saying it like you never would. I hear that so often that it rarely ever sounds like a legitimate question. The perception is already decided before the questioner gets an answer, it's really just bait for an ambush. Piers Morgan is like the king of this.
Anyway most people raised with guns seem to be involved with hunting or target shooting, so naturally this is where they think of them first, followed by defense against home invasions. (or invasions of another sort if you live along the southern borders, or an eastern european country). They're simple tools and entertainment like a hammer, a bow, a saw, or an axe to most of them.

That's the best way I can think of describing it in general. The media only pretends one 'culture' exists when there's like three in the US, more or less in other countries. Also they enjoy blaming massacres on guns when it's really pharmaceutical companies which ought be at fault. Most every massacre in the past 30 years have been done by those 'on meds' or 'just going off.' The whole 'fanatical crazed gunman' thing doesn't actually seem to happen in the US, only outside, it's almost always someone having the wrong amount or kind of dosage, or being diagnosed for something they didn't really have. When it isn't, it's because they're bounced out of a job they've had for decades and don't know any modern-day skills. Only two I can recall offhand that are actual 'crazed gunman' type shootings involved a crazy cult church and of course that 'beltway sniper' guy, and neither of them had literal 'sprees.'
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