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So yeah. Faust has announced that DC Superhero Girls has indeed been cancelled. And once its contract with Netflix ends it will be removed and sealed away forever.
And yes it was done so that WB could use it for a tax write-off.
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I’d argue older cartoons were worse in certain periods.
30s and before: Interesting historically though not content wise. Racist as all fuck. Andrew Tate could just make a cartoon here.
40s-50s: Looney Tunes and Disney set the gold standard, Nobody remembers the other dudes. For a reason. Racist as all fuck. That Tate cartoon still happens.
60- 70s: Bland, though politically daring sometimes. Getting Less Racist and sexist.
80s: So corporate it got real goddamn bad. 80s. so. Yeah. Still Racist but not overt. Usually.
90’s were a very experimental period. Classics and forgotten heaps. Still racist but in subconscious ways. Bit more overt with the sexism.
2000s: less experimental but same as above. Cartoons become increasingly safe in content. Rarely racist or sexist
2010s: Plenty of bangers but the experimentation is effectively gone. Studios want to play it safe so no mention of tougher topics outright anymore, maybe a lesbian kiss if your lucky. Maybe. Actively trying to not be racist or sexist but an Oye Primos occasionally leaks through.
Oh unless you count internet cartoons. You could and can find those that are hella racist. Sometimes not pretending to hide in “it’s edgy.”
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With Oye Primos if the racism is true. I think it boils down to this.
Cartoons tend to be very zany ever since the mid 2010s. So normally this would just be another wacky cartoon.
But then you combine that with Mexican culture and attributes and you get something that approaches caricature.
I guess overt wackiness is not always a good trope to use.
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I think it has less to do with “Wackiness” and more the fact that despite the fact that this is supposed to be a cartoon about Hispanic culture, outside of the creator of the show (Mexican-American) 90% of the people working on this show are white Americans with what seems like no other influence/help from anyone within the culture
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“Older cartoons were better!”
Older cartoons: casual racist and sexist stereotypes
Which is why a lot of modern cartoons use more racist and sexist tropes and stereotypes as a guise, take from or flat out try to remake classic cartoons as a means to usurp that ultimately fall to obscurity much faster. Mostly due to a combination of flat animation, flat stories and flat characters.
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I admit I was mostly thinking of things with names like FreedomToons or stuff posted on purely conservative websites. The most egregious one was one from the dailywire about native americans being savages. They had to delete it and apologize. Though admittedly those types of online cartoons are less racist, for now, because they’re mainly focused on hating or being weird about trans people.
Something YouTubeable or Newgroundsable tends to be at most 2016 edgy and would probably get vaporized if it’s overt.
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I’m not sure where you got the idea that modern cartoons use racist and sexist stereotypes cause they dont. Atleast not intentionally outside of family guy or southpark and its ilk, but adult cartoons trying to be edgy. Sometimes cartoons certainly stumble into shit. Like how so many nonbinary characters are often made to be aliens and whatnot. Or steven universe’s well meaning radical positivity unintentionally kinda saying you can forgive a dictator But it’s often just an oversight.
As for the other thing, you mean homages and reboots? That’s not really an attempt to usurp so much as the natural change of cartoonist generations. Much of the 90s cartoon block was a riff on 50-70s cartoons and looney tunes. And rebooting cartoons for the next generation is something that’s been done for decades, look at scooby doo and the looney tunes. They partially got brought back via an extended basketball/shoe commercial.
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I think depending on the writer and artist there a various of reason why you still see them. One of the reason being is that the writer and artist overthinking on a trait and will turn toward stereotypes, skim a culture as a ref or use stuff like twilight or fifty shade of grey for ref. As a result this ends up with the character becomes a caricature. and thing is that some writer trying to be hip with people it also because some people think these caricature are accurate and are obsess with them. Some people say that a character are trans because the character does something that fit into a gender norm and stereotype and not creating a headcanon and more like saying it is canon.
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Oh yeah that can absolutely happen. Like said. Sometimes they stumble into it.
Oyes promos being a great example. It appears they were trying to do something about the Mexican American experience via sitcom but they inadvertently put they’re whole foot in it. It can a tricky thing to do.
It’s why I personally think the Owl House or amphibia route is a safer one. Some other culture isn’t the big focus, but a side thing that’s brought up every now and again. Less chance at blowing the whole thing and passing everyone off. Some dudes like the El Tigre guy are just better at doing what Oye Primos were going for.
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CYborg is probably speaking in some dumb dog whistle about how cartoons can’t openly be mean to minority groups now and need to be “subtle” about it.
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I mean it helps that the guy behind El Tigre is actually Hispanic along with most of the people working on the show, so they know more about the culture.
Nothing wrong with someone outside the culture trying to make a story focusing on said culture, but i think it helps if you actually have people from said culture working on the story so it doesn’t unintentionally come off as being full of stereotypes
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