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@Meanlucario
Attack of the Clones still had better world building and character moments, even if it was poorly executed, which is the only issue with the prequels.
Also, Phantom Menace is worse than Attack.
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In Vino Veritas
The OG movies weren’t exactly the best written things either, with the dialogue in particular being hocky and the pacing only being saved by the intervention of Lucas’s wife doing a fantastic edit.
The story was interesting in terms of its major elements, and the visual effects at the time were incredible (Lucas has an incredible eye for detail when it comes to set design).
But overall the writing in the OG trilogy is very stilted. This problem is worse in the prequels, as Lucas is really not that great of a director. Fantastic producer, designer, and effects artist, with an eye for engaging set peices, but a piss poor director. Remember, the most fondly remembered OG movie was the one he had the least director control over.
The prequels are a hodgepodge of set peices, stiled and hammy dialogue, and some of the worst flow issues of any modern scifi series. But, they did have a lot of heart, and the hamminess is endearing. To say the prequels only issues were poor execution is a little misleading, as it implies only a few things were wrong. Most of its attempted executions were broken, from the writing to the flow of the story. It was a great series of setpeices that ultimately punctuated a poorly paced paper-boat-plot that pushed the characters along with very little care. The main cast are not agents of motion in the story, which is one of the worst sins a writer can do to his creations.
They have no agency, they have no direction, and they have very little impact. The story happens to them not because of them.
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@Meanlucario
Self-aware, yeah no. The story is bad and again had no planning or structure. The prequels had good stories with elements that seem like bad writing but really weren’t, like the jedi not detecting that Palpatine was the sith lord, that can be explained. The execution was bad. And the characters were interesting and well rounded. Nobody was good in the sequels. Most of my star wars friends who love the originals and enjoy the prequels in their own way, hate the sequels. The prequels were made with passion by someone who loved making movies, and the sequels were just made as a cash grab, and that’s the biggest difference.
The original trilogy is still the best though, and is untouchable in my opinion.
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Because at the very least Rey and Co. move the story forward.
Except for Rise, which itself is a shitty paper-boat plot where all the characters simply either have shit happen to them, or shit happens and they blunder into it.
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@Zincy
And Luke, Leia, and Han didn’t in the original trilogy?
Even if Rey does move it forward, it doesn’t matter because she’s not a good character.
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The OG trilogy was fine in that respect.
The prequels were not, and in no way are they good and well written stories.
If it wasn’t for the Clone Wars cartoon and the movie novelizations then that era of SWs wouldn’t ever have been worth looking at.
The Clone Wars is everything the prequels should have been where Palps plots are worked against, characters have actual agency, and the plot has ebbs and flows that actually make it compelling to sail the peaks and trouges alike.
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@Zincy
I still argue the prequels had better world-building and characters, and the plotholes aren’t really, like the jedi not knowing the sith lord was under their noses can be explained as their dogmatic agenda and not really being what they were 1000 years prior. Same with Anakin’s fall.
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A lot cool shit came out of the prequel era, enough for them to justify the Prequels’ existence. However, as much as I disliked TLJ, I can’t in good conscious say it’s worse than ATOC. Even back when everyone hated the prequels. it was the one I was not willing to defend
Also in regards to TLJ, as much as I disliked the direction it took the series, I disliked the caving to the backlash and undoing ROS did even more
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