Surprisingly negative votes

SMT5015

Hi, sorry if topics like this are not allowed, but I'm not just complaining, I'm in complete "WTF".

Not so long ago I started to post there some arts what I have stored for quite long. When most of them drown in the depths of main page with under +20 raing and a couple of negative votes, I considered it normal because all my previous art here had the same fate. But then I posted this and got ten negative votes. TEN, CARL! And I totally can't see what is wrong with the picture itself. It seems not so different from any of the previous. So what is the problem?
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I'm not sure. There are trolls and possibly bots that go around downvoting almost everything, even objectively good pieces of art. One thing that has bothered me about Derpibooru is that because you can upvote, downvote and favourite without even opening up the picture's page to see the image in full resolution, the description and any comments (which you mentioned), it causes people to be less inclined to fully engage with the picture if they like it, and make it easier to mass downvote things if they don't.

After looking through your images, I will say that there has been pictures that you've drawn that are better IMO, but that still doesn't explain it.
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Proportions are distorted, and it's visually messy.

Plus, there seems to be a psycological thing where people are more likely to downvote if there's a lot of downvotes already.
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Ok i ruined Rarity's eyes here and paper and pencils dont have CTRL+C but thats not reason for such a amont downvotes.
Im rather confused.
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id say is that this site has some sort of "high standart" when it comes to art

i mean, there have been people complaining because the featured image at the time was of "bad quality", so, the same could happend for regular uploads
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And almost NEVER any hints what makes it creepy.


The proportions are odd, the soft fuzzy look to everything looks unnatural, the eyes and expressions look lifeless and dead, and its hard to tell what exactly are they supposed to be doing.
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Lack of eyebrows, some styles can get away with it like The Simpsons but others need eyebrows.

I’m personally borderline when it comes to the necessity of brows, If I forget eyebrows my characters…well they tend to have comically shocked expectations. XD

I know it’s facial because when you upload close ups of the face of your characters the upvotes decrease dramatically.

My solution? Look what gives more upvotes, see what facial features and styles make the crowd go crazy.

I would have said that it was ummm how big your characters are but I actually think that’s the only thing helping your art due to certain interests and fantasy’s in this site.

Perhaps you should look into other artist who are into semi realism who have a nice face up in their pones.
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Oooh very important their is little eye-whites (sclera) visable, this gives the illusion that they are of lower intelligence and more animalistic, the eyes are the window of the soul take a look these.

In this it makes use of eyes brows and more human like eyes, allowing for a variety of facial expressions without falling into uncanny valley.




This is a great example of eye whites indicating human sentience. The audience knows that when the moms eyes (the bear) go all black that she has become all bear, that she has changed and is no longer able to function like a human.
A larger head to body ratio that allows for more brain space also gives a creature seemingly more intelligence and feeling and ultimately makes them more relatable to the audience.

In your drawing rarity seems to lack brain space, and many others in your characters. It makes her look dull and slow witted, like she’s about to take a dump and eat some hay or something and leave what makes her human like behind.
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Seems like i must elaborate: Aside LunarFlower (and now with Awkwardluna too) there i got NONE of hints how to do better :D

-Seems i must press more to facial expressions. I did a lot of creatures to Lucasarts Outlaws. Due low resolutions (Height of the sprites are around 100 pixels) There was face not very important but when you must draw around 100 frames for each characters then you learn a lot of anatomy. (Why correct anatomy make ponies proportions "odd?")

-Im not sure if i draw only thin ponies then i drown into downvotes. Seems like mine are too skinny for them who appreciate fat ones. (example: Big Cadance)

-Lets see what happen to this closeup…

Eyebrows on Disneys horses seems odd to me, but that bear's expressions are closer to that what i want.

I watch some artists who does realistic things but they seems too bobmed with uncanny valley tags. Bluespaceling for example.
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This bluespaceling person kind of has that issue too. Especially that rarity they made. On the eyebrows maybe a thinner or lighter color would work. Rather than thick caterpillar brows. :p
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Looks like people dont like realistic closeups.
https://derpibooru.org/images/2535630
About that end of pony at least
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The critique I'd give is that her face is not horse-like enough to match the realistic body. It's the opposite criticism I give to most anthro art. My suggested changes are to give her a longer muzzle and smaller eyes and (optionally) beautiful rectangular horse pupils.
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Hi, sorry if topics like this are not allowed, but I'm not just complaining, I'm in complete "WTF".

Not so long ago I started to post there some arts what I have stored for quite long. When most of them drown in the depths of main page with under +20 raing and a couple of negative votes, I considered it normal because all my previous art here had the same fate. But then I posted this and got ten negative votes. TEN, CARL! And I totally can't see what is wrong with the picture itself. It seems not so different from any of the previous. So what is the problem?

That picture is cool. The devs won't do anything about the downvote system because people would complain that they can't troll.
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I know how a horse look like but i think Little Ponies are rather far of horses both in body build and headshape.
https://derpibooru.org/images/2488827

Now i see that fat Luna's left eye are not very right, especially inner corner. Its not easy to draw them right.

Minus-votes are painful but other option are zero votes and lack of feedback in general. I think latter are worse, its not force to draw better or even draw any more, it will give impression like site are dead and people left it.
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Not only they will complain…
Actually, places with no downvotes are filled with EXTREMELY hateful comments as people have no way to vent their personal dislike for an art.
So downvotes are here just for mad people to blow off their steam.
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@Soobel
I hope you don't mind some critique on this next image being posted here rather than as a direct comment on the image.

First, those are some beautiful legs and hooves.

Second, directly adapting FiM-style heads to 3-D may be a task that is guaranteed to end up in the uncanny valley for many. In the show itself, the ponies change their skull geometry depending on their angle in relation to the camera. Namely, the eyes migrate from the side of the head when viewing the side of a pony to the front of their face when viewing the pony head-on.
In the linked image, Tomato Delight has the most natural-looking face. The shading emphasizes Mrs. Cake's small muzzle. The show gets away with the extremely small muzzles because of its overall lack of detail: there's just not enough there to tell the viewer "something's not quite right".
The critique I have for Derpy is that her head appears to be in the same plane as her shoulder. The way her mane terminates at her shoulder gives the impression that her neck emerges from her left shoulder instead of smoothly originating between her shoulders. Letting her mane drape over her shoulder and some shading tweaks will move Derpy's head so it's in line with her waist.

Finally, did I mention that I like how you connected the back of the hooves to the legs?
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