DEBATE - YCH.Art or YCH.Commishes?

Poll results: YCH.Art or YCH.Commishes? Which is better and the overall favourite.

YCH.Art
66.67% 2 votes
YCH.Commishes
33.33% 1 vote

Poll ended with 3 votes.

Lil_VampireCJ
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Lil_VampireCJ

Introduction

YCH.Art & YCH.Commishes are both commonly used sites for hosting YCH Auctions on as well as portfolio by Artists, they both have their differences, layout differences & separate pros & cons. Most artists use one or the other or both. They have similar features but they all have their differences and different functions.

Comparison(Pros & Cons)

To make it easier to those who do not use the sites or are not artists, here is a list of pros & cons of both the sites which you can use to decide your answer but the best way to do this is by personal experience.

YCH.Commishes

Rules - Decent & Respectable
Filtering - Very limited, does not offer custom filtering but does let you filter by rating of Safe, Questionable, Explicit or Shock. Content rating is displayed on YCH Auctions but not on Portfolio art/uploads.
Portfolio Software - Good, very well developed & filters work for filtering out any rated content you don’t want to see, unfortunately does not offer filtering for subjects you don’t want to see.
Bans & Appeals - Does not offer on-site support with appeals, appeals are dealt with off-site on 3rd party softwares such as discord.
Reporting Content - Offers only a report function for auctions, not for uploads or accounts; no communications or responses are held.
Community - Quite big & Active, but nice.
Pricing range - Pricing is often fair but some auction fights can go insanely far
Bidding Protection & Sniping - Offers protection against last-minute bidding sniping by adding a extra 10 minutes. They also allow users to auto-bid
Notifications - Notifications are given by Email.

YCH.Art

Rules - Good but some may struggle to understand them.
Filtering - Filtering is very good, it offers a range of filtering out any content by rating including if its a suggestive auction, auctions do not display their rating so it is not very easy to tell what the rating will be of the art on the site. It also offers filtering out content by words/subjects meaning if you do not want to see certain auctions by subject, you don’t have to.
Portfolio Software - Portfolio software is neat and simple, however the filters do not hide content you have filtered by rating or word.
Bans & Appeals - Simple, can be managed on-site or on a 3rd party media.
Reporting Content - Offers reporting profiles entirely, Auctions & contacting staff directly about a problem on-site. Staff are really friendly and also give a response within 24-hours in regards to your report, action taken as well as a thank you & if anything else would need to be said or reported as well before the ticket/message is closed. They also offer a level system of how serious the report is which is handy.
Community - Fairly small; not as large as YCH.Commishes but Very wholesome, Friendly & Helpful.
Pricing range - Usually okay but a lot/most auctions are heavily overpriced & out of budget for a lot of clients.
Bidding Protection & Sniping - Offers Auto-Bid & Sniping Protection. It also offers joint multiple slots of up to 8 on the same auction.
Notifications - Notifications are pinged by email as well as the sites own personal notification inbox making it hard for you to miss a thing.

My overall choice & Opinion

Overall, they are both good sites but I am curious to know which one is the best and most favourite here.
I personally prefer YCH.Art as it has a easier & friendlier layout, offers filters not just only by rating, easier to resell auctions that didn’t sell, Safer community and easier report system as there is communication; a thing not many sites offer, it offers ways to pay on-site instead of going off-site it unfortunately only works with Paypal currently though but I hope they can add Boosty as a function for this too. I have used both sites for awhile and have a fair amount of experience with them both; however, if theres any information and stuff I have left out please let me know & I will add it!
I feel like one thing that would improve YCH.Art is upgrading the Portfolio system and getting the filter system to also work on Artwork too as it either seems to be broken or not work at all. A few things that would also improve that system is adding titles, descriptions & tagging to Portfolio posts; this would fix the issue with it not being filtered as well as filter content by rating. Another thing that would help is for people to see a auctions safety rating.
As for improvements to YCH.Commishes, it would to be a bit more relaxed on things, explain things a bit more easier to users; especially those who do not have “English” as their first native language or are genuinely new to art/the site, Offer custom filters by words/tags, add a improved tagging system and a report button for profiles & Portfolio/Artwork uploads too; I have seen plenty of profiles and portfolio uploads that are against their rules such as stolen/traced artwork, uncredited base or incorrect rating(Aka explicit content marked as safe) the site only currently lets you report these issues manually by a 3rd party software such as their discord server.
I am aware YCH.Commishes is doing some improvement updates and major changes to their site currently; which may make me change my overall opinion of preferring YCH.Art over Commishes, I do love both sites & am aware they are both subject to changes as they’re still in-development.
Anyways, which YCH Auction site is your preferred favourite?
hollowblade
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~

I personally use Commishes more, but that’s only because that’s where I find, for me, the best auctions and artists. While many use both, most of the artists I like use Commishes. Also, every time I search for Pony auctions in Art, after only a few pages I end up just going through the same cheap repeated auctions. While Commishes has this too, I find that there are far more unique pieces when going through the current selection.
Lil_VampireCJ
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Lil_VampireCJ
I personally use Commishes more, but that’s only because that’s where I find, for me, the best auctions and artists. While many use both, most of the artists I like use Commishes. Also, every time I search for Pony auctions in Art, after only a few pages I end up just going through the same cheap repeated auctions. While Commishes has this too, I find that there are far more unique pieces when going through the current selection.
Yeah, I use both too; Commishes apparently reworked the site a little, made re-doing auctions easier with less restrictions as well as added roles. YCH Commishes is still more popular used compared to YCH.Art for how many auctions are hosted there.
Lil_VampireCJ
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Lil_VampireCJ
I think one massive con YCH.Commishes has compared to YCH.Art is with Reselling auctions that sadly didn’t get any bids & how it has restrictions to do with redoing auctions.
Like I find it quite good that they offer it as a “sale” as a way to help artists etc but you can only offer it once as a sale then it would have to be deleted and re-set back up at its default price.
YCH.Art doesn’t have this restriction at all, all you have to do is press “relist auction” and boom, all good; you do not need to do it single “as a sale.” Though you can edit the prices & details before you launch the auction. :>
Like Currently, I have a YCH on my Commishes re-listed on sale as it didn’t sell sadly; however I could do the same on my YCH.Art But, not need to put in on-sale. Theres no need for me to rly do that especially as I’d rather only do one of the same YCH at a time & not have too many open at the same time.
I know recently they did lower the restrictions a bit by no longer needing to of already completed previous auctions etc which is good because that restriction was quite unnecessary.
hollowblade
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~

I understand as an artist why being able to resell auctions is incredibly useful, especially if your goal is to be able to make decent money off your art. However, if I as a consumer go to a commission site and everytime 2/3’s of the selection are the same auctions being resold over and over again, it just creates less of an incentive to return to the site or at least not go to it in any regular capacity. Going to Commish means I have greater odds of finding something I want to bid on.
Commish does have a problem with not handling scammers very well though, and just mostly rely on whatever payment service you use to deal with the situation.
Lil_VampireCJ
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Lil_VampireCJ
I understand as an artist why being able to resell auctions is incredibly useful, especially if your goal is to be able to make decent money off your art. However, if I as a consumer go to a commission site and everytime 2/3’s of the selection are the same auctions being resold over and over again, it just creates less of an incentive to return to the site or at least not go to it in any regular capacity. Going to Commish means I have greater odds of finding something I want to bid on.
Commish does have a problem with not handling scammers very well though, and just mostly rely on whatever payment service you use to deal with the situation.
Yeah, you’re quite right with that but I’ve seen a lot of copy & paste re-uploaded auctions in Commishes too, of course not as bad as it is in YCH.Art. Most artists who do that get the “Spammer” tag though lol.
I’ve dealt with scammers on both sites, they both are rly good & quick to deal with them as in do the same thing. I’ve stopped accepting paying Artists only by “Boosty & Patreon” entirely now bc of how bad the scams are getting especially smart-wise my only exceptions are if I’ve commissioned the artist before & not had any issues; Sadly can’t trust “genuine” looking artists on the sites either anymore because scammers are just that good at it now & its sad really.
I only strictly accept paying artists now by Paypal(Not as family & friends) & Ko-Fi under “Commissions”(Stripe) as they both have buyer protection/refunding & are not “Tip jar” functions.
hollowblade
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~

@Lil_VampireCJ
Is Ko-Fi a good alternative? There are a ton of really good Russian artists that I regular that moved to Bootsy because Paypal became impossible for them to use, and almost everytime we end up having to use a friend of their’s as a middle-man because Bootsy just straight up doesn’t work for me.
Lil_VampireCJ
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Lil_VampireCJ
@Lil_VampireCJ
Is Ko-Fi a good alternative? There are a ton of really good Russian artists that I regular that moved to Bootsy because Paypal became impossible for them to use, and almost everytime we end up having to use a friend of their’s as a middle-man because Bootsy just straight up doesn’t work for me.
Ko-Fi is good, I use it myself for contact-free Comms as I know not many ppl like to talk or in other words have social anxiety, so it means they do not need to message me etc to order, they can simply just submit a comm request and paid automatcially by kofi.
Sadly Kofi no longer rly works in Russia as Stripe discontinued its service there recently, paypal of course already has. Russians have no choice but to stick with Boosty or Patreon atm idk any other methods that work in RU but also globally right now. Sadly Kofi only works with Paypal & Stripe which is a thing I hope they change.
I originally had issues using Boosty as it kept claiming my card didn’t exist meaning I had to use paypal.
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