The Pizza Thread - With a Side of Toxic-Mario

@EOWDT  
It’s not like he’s fighting for his freedom, they’re not calling the cops on him, he broke the rules and should take it like a man.
 
Now everybody stfu and talk about pizza!

@Badheart  

 
Have a mascalzone. Half pizza, half calzone. And it’s a pun, since “mascalzone” is an archaic term for “malicious prankster”

@EOWDT  
Yesssss

 

I found the perfect tablet for tox
 

@EOWDT  
Nope and that’s why this is all exploding so much, it’s not even the tracing anymore.  
It’s his attitude to being caught, acting like nothing’s wrong
 
Which if you follow only tox and not see everything else he censors everything to his followers on DA So you still get a bunch of people sympathizing with him or not even realizing how much of a shitty person he can be.  
Pisses me off he’s manipulating people, but also bothers me he still has white knights on DA that are super gualable

@Ardail  
yeah, he bans lots of people and basically created an echo chamber for himself.  
Oh well, basically he’s living on fans he made when he was one of the first pony artists and he’s not allowed at cons anymore appearently.  
So i think he’ll eventually die out, even his fans don’t like his recent art shift

He cried on twitter recently how someone at Ciderfest brought up his name “out of context” and looks like the con staff said they had bad experience with him. In addition to it, they didn’t accept his art pack for charity auction, which doesn’t really surprise me. That’s why Tox has retired from conventions but he still has his online shop where he sells his traced anthros. Speaking of which, I’ve heard he hasn’t sold a single item since he set the end of July.

@icesticker  
Why is this tablet perfect for Tox?

@Background Pony #B509  
got any proof of that? Except the twitter posts, i went and read those….  
it’s a bit sad that his twitter account is essentially him talking to himself…

@EOWDT  
Lol he blocked me on Twitter awhile ago

@Background Pony #B509  
I’m not surprised he was banned from ciderfest, they probably found out he as telling vendors at everfree not to go cuz the con isn’t all that good  
I didn’t bring it up cuz I couldn’t record it, and don’t like to tell conventions stuff like that unless I could give some hard evidence then just I over heard him talking with other vendors

Lol just logged out of my Twitter and I can see his posts again, lol doesn’t even give any context just super vague

@Ardail  
Well clearly if you had any context to tell anyone anything you’d tell people I haven’t been to Everfree in 2 years and also that Ciderfest I consider to be my favorite pony con so good on that one as usual. hehe and you say I’m the one being vague on my stuff…..especially your 2nd part. Well I know what went down….it definitely was unfair in the context it was in but there’s nothing wrong with the person I got it from not wanting to stick their nose out there cause what good will that do other than to get people to go after them.
 
 
@EOWDT  
hehe boy you always “claim” to know everything about me or this is what is truly happening with Tox guys “believe me”. I always am amused seeing your material when talking to people about me when in reality you should just go to the source which is me, but those standards are far above that I see. Ah well. :|

@Toxic-Mario  
Lol sure okay, cuz who are we gonna believe the vendors who have told me about the bad advice you gave them. Or telling them not to attend certain cons. Obviously hoping they’d fail so you’d have less competition.  
Or the guy with the history of make DA journals where you black out parts of your screen caps of what others say so it twists the story around for your gualable DA followers

@Ardail  
You really like living in the past don’t you Ardail like soooooo many others these days. Well I think people would block out parts that contain either personal stuff or nothing to pertain to topics on hand but if that’s how you interpret it I can’t stop you. As for the bad advice thing…..please..I love how you always say that you say the vendors hate any advice I give them as if I talked to everyone that vendors. I only have helped maybe 5 at most get started. Get your #s straight. I will help people get started but I told them that’s all I can really do and they have to figure out their own market like me and other do. Everyone has different niches and it’s up to them to figure that out on their own after a while so naturally whatever quirks I give them will be off maybe. In the end any advice vendors give to others is based off their experiences but it may or may not work for everyone. Also considering I pretty don’t do conventions anymore I’ve even told people not to so much go for me for advice anyway since IDK what even sells or what pony cons are like these days or trends.
 
 
At this point anyone that brings up anything like that is still holding a grudge that is so unhealthy it’s nuts. Like still people will bring up stuff in the past but these days sure there’s a couple people I will hardcore make sure to push back again but a grudge (i.e. Drawponies for example people love to bring up) I moved on and I don’t have bad ill to him like people still think I do. Personally I wouldn’t mind having a convo with him at some point. At this point the past was the past stuff changed like that…you should do the same.

@Toxic-Mario  

 
You did wrong indeed, but your are more tolerable than drawponies.

@Toxic-Mario  
Look man, I’ll give you some unsolicited advice, artist to artist. I honestly mean well by it, because I want to see you do well. Learn humility. In fact, be so humble that people will wonder if you have any ego whatsoever. That’s how you get people to like you. I’m probably wrong, but I know from my own experience that stonewalling people and claiming you have all the answers all the time doesn’t work. It just doesn’t.

@icesticker  
OMG XD
 
 
@Toxic-Mario  
depends a lot on how it was managed tbh, drawponies got it easier because as far as i know he apologized and admitted it, he intended to improve and he did it  
you instead of ignoring and prepare a journal clarifying what happened you went to call everyone names and hide yourself in a echo room :S  
whats going on right now is the result of your own stubbornness, like its a fire you started by calling people names, being aggressive on your sales, etc.
 
but again, i already told you this a lot of times, so i can’t even hope for you to take this seriously or to atleast consider it or atleast read it at all, i think a lot of us already did our best to help you get out of this business and you just called out sillies and made whatever you wanted to do, so idk if i should even attempt to help you at this point :S

@Toxic-Mario  
You should know that some people you gave advice to are laughing at you and they find it hilarious you actually try to give anyone any advice.  
You “forgave” Drawponies because he left the fandom, changed the name and is no longer vendoring. People don’t hold any grudge against him for the same reasons, plus he apologised. You did not apologise.

@Background Pony #B509  
Drawponies was vending at BronyCon this year I believe, but under a different name. The difference is though that he admitted he fucked up, and made a long effort to make amends.
 
Edit: he was, using the name “ArtworkTee”

@MiragePotato  
MP you are in my streams….IDK what hide in an echo room you and others always claim like that. I’ve already gone over this too many times to count in my streams and you should know that clearly isn’t the case so stop. Plus you know I am stubborn as hell on stuff….that’s obvious….I think anyone is. The problem is what I am stubborn on is what people nit pick that I think anyone else would have issues over but then people will assume I am overall a bad person and it people will purposely now snowball it everywhere so regardless how I come across on any topic it’s gonna be assume I am stubborn but again that’s my fault but rather assumptions people had that became facts to people cause enough people hear about it even if it’s not true and it explodes from there. That’s impossible to stop no matter what I do anyway these days. Plus you know damn well I am focused on the weather job hunt now….conventions are a thing in the past and the business aspect is 2nd these days to me.
 
@Background Pony #B509  
You do know he’s been vending at a lot of conventions lately right? He still sell pony although I think now people are giving him stuff to vendor on their behalf since they can’t be there. I have no problem with that so your “forgive” thing is totally wrong on my reasoning….nice try.
 
@Nightweaver20xx  
I don’t admit I know all the answers though. Only ones I know I am confident in like anyone else.

@Toxic-Mario  
i meant that figuratevily speaking, like you only take for granted what you think, without looking for a second opinion :P  
i never said you where a bad person… but sadly how you are with a lot of people has made me give it another look, honestly the time i asked you on advice when i first started drawing and when i asked you for advice at cons was the time i though you where a pretty chill guy, but after what went out i stopped looking at you that way, infact the only reason i say you are stubborn is because no matter if the thing its right infront of you you still will deny it and wont change anything, the fact people think you are a “bad person” (which i think they dont think it that way, more that they see you as pretty much a jerk), is based on your attitude towards well… anyone who gives you critique or advice, even to people who try to help you out…  
im more than willing to be there to help you but honestly, its hard to offer you a hand if you always think you don’t need anything of that and more when all the times someone tried you made fun of them and called them names :S
 
well, conventions idk but didn’t you said you where going to a local one?, because the pony marked there was big?  
im just going to say this tox, i know art isnt your main career and less your main money income, it isnt mine either but hobby or not i think we should do our best, specially if we plan to sell it to people

@MiragePotato  
See with that type of statement there you are making it out that anyone that ever gave me a critique I completely made fun of. I think what people need to get, like you MP, is to understand I usually will sift through which critiques I think will work best for what I want to do. I don’t mind them but I think what people don’t always understand is I am looking on specific things to add to what I want to do…cause I’ve seen some of these critique but they are far beyond what would compliment either my style or either they would make changes that it looks far too off for me to look at personally and it will lose my own style touch of how I want to make my ponies. People just need to realize I am supremely picky on critiques cause I have an art method so far different that what would be the ‘common’ artist so I can’t exactly do everything as much as people want me to either do or put into my ponies. That’s why I am so nit-picky but I explained that to you and others before….IDK why I need to explain that again so many times. :|
 
So if people gave me things to work on based on knowing how I want my stuff to look, well get to, or adjusting certain things that keeps my own flair still then that’s what I’m for doing but only a very select few know that, know my tendencies Plus this is gonna take well over a year to get properly right and time is far more stressed these days so stuff is gonna be slower compared to 2011-2014. And asking me to overhaul and nail something new on after a 2-3 months after 6 years of making the same stuff is gonna take a LONG time and people have no patience for that even though I am working on it, I have a large back load of stuff and you’ve seen it. Oh and I am not really selling anymore sooooo…..