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@SeraphimDawn  
Not necessarily. You can off road anything, it’s just how hardcore you can go.  
A typical crossover will have no trouble with this:  
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But no way is it managing this:  
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@Prince Artemis  
You’ll be happy to hear that that’s how they’re building the 2020 Bronco, then.
 
@SeraphimDawn  
Meanwhile, at Toyota:  
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@kleptomage  
It’s a neat feature, and I can see how it could be useful. It just always threw me off that someone looked at an empty space in the car and thought “card table.”
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@Prince Artemis  
After all they excitement generated by just casually saying they’ll build it, Ford would have to be nuts to change their minds. And if they’re smart, it’ll bear some resemblance to the fanmade render that every article about it uses:  
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And what do you mean about the Challenger? I’m missing something.
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@Prince Artemis  
Ah, right, gotcha. I wasn’t sure if you meant that or were saying that the concept was body on frame.
 
I really like that Bronco, but I wouldn’t complain about something like this, either:  
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What I would have a problem with would be if they did something like this (which supposedly they won’t):  
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It’s supposed to be a decent SUV, but nothing about that says “Bronco,” and if you’re gunning for the Wrangler, the “generic crossover” look just won’t cut it.
 
 
@SeraphimDawn  
Honestly, “sporty” was about the last thing that comes to mind looking at those. More like “awkward;” The hybrid looks like it’s wearing a mouthguard that’s way too big for it, and the regular one looks like it’s missing part of its face. Honda got it right by keeping the Accord decent and inoffensive looking, while Toyota has been cranking out some bizarre designs lately.
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@Flying Pancake  
Ha, Toyota’s edgy Lexus style is ridiculous for economy cars. Are those air intakes on the bottom corners even functional?
 
@Prince Artemis  
The good news about the Bronco is that Ford definitely has the knowledge of how to make a legitimate off-roader after building the Raptor. Basically, all Ford has to do is shrink the Raptor down a size class and make it an SUV.
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@kleptomage  
And I would be perfectly OK with seeing that in production, although if they do I don’t think they should make it a Raptor close performance wise. The Bronco seems more like a rock crawler than the high speed stuff the Raptor is made for.
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the Bronco is in 2020 but this guy is coming in the spring:  
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I sure hope the Colorado ZR2 doesn’t disappoint, it’s GM’s only serious offroad entry
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@Prince Artemis  
for sure, the Raptor has the giant shocks that no other truck has. it’s more of a niche market than any other truck. it is more of an impractical and race-orientated truck so I think it deserves to have its own market share
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@Flying Pancake  
the Highlander looks a whole lot better in person, totally would love to see a new FJ Cruiser though. they did great with retro offroad style, similar to Jeep Wrangler but unique.  
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@Flying Pancake  
The Camry has quad exhausts too! Who does Toyota think they’re fooling? It’s good that Akio Toyoda is trying to make Toyota and Lexus interesting again but that change needs to start with the LC and work its way down with substance, not fake style.
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Skoda? I haven’t heard of this before. Looks nice from here albeit with a touch screen that I’m still iffy on, possibly for no reason. I wonder how easy or difficult it is to check the transmission fluid level?
 
I wonder if there’s going to be a body redesign for the Dodge Caravan some time relatively soon.
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@kleptomage  
I don’t even know what they’re shooting for, either. The people who buy Camrys don’t care what they look like, they’re the “safe” choice, reliable and consistent. Toyota has those guys locked down, interesting or not. If they’re trying to expand beyond that, then weird styling isn’t the way to accomplish that. They ought to do what Honda did with the Accord and make a “sport” version that offers moderate performance.
 
 
@RainbowDash69  
Neat, it’s too bad we don’t get Skoda in the US, they always seem like cheaper and better looking versions of VW products.
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