Automotive enthusiasts?

@Flying Pancake  
Yes, Chrysler the brand. The old American brand that is almost dead now. I don’t see them having much of a future if things continue the way they are.
 
@SeraphimDawn  
I can’t remember ever seeing a Fiat on the road and I’ve seen some relatively rare cars like a CTS wagon, Ferrari, Polaris Slingshot, Jaguar XF, and a couple Rolls Royces.

@kleptomage  
Chrysler is supposed to be one of FCA’s flagship brands.  
At this rate, they mind as well rename themselves Fiat/Dodge/Jeep where they’re going.

@SeraphimDawn  
Hmm. Neat video, but with as many “in general”-s as he had to throw around, I’m inclined to believe the real difference is something else, or maybe even just marketing. For example, what is this?  

 
Using those criteria:  
5) It’s not based on any other car or truck platform, so ???  
4) 4wd, so SUV  
3) Solid axles, so SUV  
2) It’s only rated for 2000 lbs towing, so CUV  

@SeraphimDawn  
ah TFL car. they did a fantastic job with that video
 
my favorite part is reading comments on youtube and people still disagree on the hard facts… look at the frame and it will tell you if it’s a car or a truck.

@Flying Pancake  
nah some 4WD SUVs these days (Tahoe) doesn’t even have a low-range selection. I think the difference is AWD can be more adaptive on the road (transferring torque to back wheels vs symmetrical)
 
now, permanent 4WD compared to AWD is basically the same

@RainbowDash69  
You can’t entirely blame them.  
The line between SUVs and CUVs are often blurred, thanks to sloppy marketing. And crossovers are a relatively recent segment compared to most others.
 
Until recently, the dominant segments in the automotive industry were the cars, particularly sedans and hatchbacks, coupes in the old days. People often refer to whatever that has 4 wheels and a metal body that can driven around as a “car”.

@SeraphimDawn  
true, I’m guilty of that… mostly because I’m too lazy to call a vehicle what it truly is

anyone here ever check out NetCarshow.com?  
look at this ridiculous Maybach G-Wagon that just came out:
 

 
And you thought the G65 AMG was insane? nope… perfect for those who can’t settle for a simple “car”

@RainbowDash69  
Call me crazy but I think a suburban sized G wagon might be a good idea.

@RainbowDash69  
Needs more axle:  

@Flying Pancake  
Love that thing.

@Flying Pancake  
There wouldn’t be enough room in that for the built in refrigerator for champagne or the reclining and massaging seats!

2006 Chevrolet HHR LT: Regular Car Reviews
 
Is this a van? Station wagon? Or a crossover?
 
It looks so 1940s.

@SeraphimDawn  
And that right there is why I think that crossovers will eventually fade away into the other vehicle classes. (I’d vote “car” or “hatchback” for that one, but it may have been legally defined as a “light truck.”)
 
Also, fun fact they didn’t mention in the video: the HHR and PT Cruiser were both designed by the same person.

@Flying Pancake  
Looks like someone has a thing for 1940s automobiles.

@Flying Pancake  
seriously? I mean the they look very much the same (both retro) but that’s blatant copying and quite unoriginal to have the same designer

@SeraphimDawn  
for sure it is a hatchback (going back to our previous statements on looking at the frame)
 
but I like the video mostly because it talks about how awesome the Suburban is… I really love that thing.

@SeraphimDawn
 
I’d think Crossover; it has little if any offroading capability. Station Wagons are supposed to be lower and much like a four-door Sedan, right?

@RainbowDash69  
Well, it wasn’t as though Chrysler and GM sought him out. He just happened to have switched from working at one to the other by the time they were working on the HHR. And, assuming Wikipedia is correct, it turns out he finalized the HHR, but didn’t originate it. (That might not be a safe assumption, though, considering his page opens with: “Bryan Nesbitt is a Joke and a low life :) “.)
 
 
@BarryFromMars  
Debatable, considering this is a station wagon too:  

@RainbowDash69  
It’s a classic with a long line. I think basically started the SUV segment.

@SeraphimDawn  
It was the original SUV. The HHR is just trying to be a PT Cruiser and thus falls in a very short list of cars. If you can even call them that.

@Flying Pancake  
That thing looks like a stage coach without horses.

yes the ’Burban is a classic… Chevy Suburban is still one of my dream rides, it looked so classy… big beautiful gas guzzler!
 
@Flying Pancake  
Alright, I stared at that quote for a long time… it is killer funny that they added a citation for that
 
 
@SeraphimDawn  
yey it has horses, probably like 10 of them

@RainbowDash69  
inside* …. ;)