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Well, it sounded to me like you were taking issue with my argument because I said that the main six were, in their individual powers, nearly insignificant in all the premiers and finales from ACW onward, so I lumped my replies together to save time. But, I think perhaps I misread your statement somewhat. C’est la vie.
Does Bills count?
that was my point…. I practically said that, regardless of whether or not an episode focuses more on Twilight doesn’t mean she’s becoming the main character anymore than if Monkey D. Luffy is in his own episodes. There’s going to be episodes focusing on one character and then there are going to be other episodes focusing on other characters.
Which I’ll remind you was the most powerful foe in DBZ.
Just because it failed in DBZ doesn’t mean it’ll fail in MLP.
Who knows, maybe they’ll throw a curveball.
Or maybe the power transfer is related to the Rainbow power upgrade.
IIRC, the only time it ever actually killed anyone was when it was used against Majin Buu.
Really, never?
Been awhile since I watched DBZ, but I recall it working at least once.
And I did say if.
Are you joking? This power transfer sounds almost exactly like the Spirit Bomb, which never works.
When the power transfer fails, they’ll be forced to use the MacGuffin instead, just watch.
I can see how a visual reminder of an unpleasant event might stand out to a person.
I’m happy that we were able to come to an understanding :) .
It’s not only about an overarching plot as you put it, although that is there. I also simply feel the difference in their current levels of status, even during the mundane moments. It was never anything noteworthy before. But every time I see that weird, long neck Twilight has now…
At any rate, I think I understand what you mean as well.
What do you mean by “the overall progression of things”, though? I think that is the key difference between our two positions - that while I see the show as a series of moments in the lives of Twilight and her friends, you see this a great overarching plot with a lot of filler in between.
So when I see Season 4, I see “Wow, Twilight hardly does anything now”, while you see “wtf, they’re setting Twilight up to be a Queen, what’s everyone else going to do?”. Both interpretations are, of course, valid at this point in time; Twilight did become more important, but also receives a lot less narrative emphasis compared to the past.
I do hope this helps explain what I perceive to be an irreconcilable difference in our positions.
Basically.
Didn’t Lauren sort of want Twilight to be this show’s equivalent of “Arthur”?
When I see that clear distinction that one must now make between Twilight and her lowly friends, I have a hard time seeing it as the old round table that it once was. Screen time is not the sole issue, that would be much too technical a way of looking at it.
There’s an undercurrent, a motif in play. and it is not what it once was. I hold to the opinion that where Twilight was once only the leader and a very important pony, she now seems to be all that really matters in the overall progression of things.
I feel like the show is currently based fairly firmly around an ensemble cast (Applejack currently has the most episodes centered around her this season, and she certainly isn’t the focus of the show), and enjoy this style of presentation.
I feel like in the past, it was more focused on Twilight, and also enjoyed that presentation.
I think you must not have read through my earlier comments…
So you say that Twilight is THE main character, but you also say that the episodes in which they attempt to establish this point are relatively unimportant.
That doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense. Either you agree with the premise that it used to be a show based on an ensemble cast (and maybe that it still is), or you think Twilight was always the primary focus. I don’t see how you can have it both ways.
I think you misunderstand my point, in my reply - I wasn’t arguing that Twilight has always been THE main character*, but rather that the elements in which she excels (the big stuff in the season openings and finales) are a small part of the show, in my opinion, and that she doesn’t overshine her friends in the rest of the episodes, which she’s hardly shown up in this season. You’re welcome to disagree with regards to the importance of openings and finales in My Little Pony, but I would prefer that we be clear on what we are disagreeing on.
*Although I have said such in the past, it’s not really germane to my own position, and I’m not really interested in discussing the point.