It’s just a pony

@SovietTwilight  
I think there is at least one Stargate episode where that does happen… “Breeders”.  
Splice that with Twilights leaving scene…

@Valikdu
 
@Tk3997  
I think it wasn’t “good” so much as “good for Universe.” We actually had stuff happening instead of “let’s sit around dark hallways having a bad soap opera; surely they’ll watch just ‘cause the word ‘Stargate’ is in the title.” It was a step up. But a mere step or two up from watching paint dry isn’t enough.

@Valikdu  
I found the drones a pretty lame villain myself. No real motivation, no face, they just… random killbots really. Admittedly I wasn’t paying much attention by the end, it had lost my by midway through season one. Maybe they did something to make the bots more interesting, but they hardly caught my attention at the time they came around.
 
The Drones are like the King Sombra of stargate villains to me. Maybe somewhere in there was the germ of a good idea, but compared to the Nightmare Moons (Gou’ald), Discords (Replicators), or Chrysalis (Wraith) of the SG universe they were just lacking.

@SovietTwilight  
Cue the happy credits music,

Reality…  
General Hammond: Close the iris!  
Iris closes  
Thud  
The end.

@Valikdu
 
I concur

@Tk3997  
It had just started getting good in the latter part of S2. The arc with the duplicate Destiny and the drones was great.

@Prof.NightJack  
Exactly, Stargate hit that sweet spot where it was self-aware enough to know it was kinda silly and poke fun at itself, but didn’t have that annoyingly cynical “look how dumb this is, isn’t it dumb? let us laugh at it’s plebeian nature together fufufu” post modern nonsense going on. Put simply Stargate was fun: it was an over the top adventure with big villains, big heroes, and often ludicrous stakes.
 
Universe had pretensions, and it wanted to be “serious” and “sophisticated”, and as with so many such failed attempts it somehow managed to equate “sophisticated” with filling the screen with a bunch of deeply unlikeable people you didn’t give a crap about who act like spoiled children. It’s funny how often attempts to produce something “mature” seems to end in the most juvenile of characters and plots.
 
So we got universe where the more “mature” story was full of pointless sex, petty infighting, and childish behavior amid a cast of people we ultiamtely didn’t give enough of a crap about to care if they lived or died, and why should we? They were stuck on the other end of the universe with no clear enemy and zero impact on the wider SG setting. They were irrelevant and nothing they ultimately did (and in two seasons and IIRC about 30 episodes total they did pretty much jack all) mattered in the slightest.
 
Indeed one could make a pretty good case that having that bunch of self-serving and whiney pricks punted to the ass end of the universe was a considerable boon for the SGC as a whole. Huh, maybe why they had so many twats and morons jammed into that base to start with suddenly makes more sense…

@Tk3997  
Interesting, I am a big fan of the older Stargate and have not looked at Universe, but there again I only liked SG-1 and didn’t think much of Atlantis, also I am far from a fan of the movie that started it all, but tha “edgier” or “more real” thing it keeping me from really trying hard to look at it, heck most of a favorite parts of SG-1 re the sillier parts.  

@Ebalosus  
Eh I’ve never really liked the Term Guilty pleasure. If you like it that’s fine, and I didn’t mean to try and crap on people that did. That was more how I felt about it, even the guys making it more or less admitted they didn’t expect most older Stargate fans to like it, and I was an old Stargate fan.
 
Stargate was like my Dr. Who or Star Trek, it started airing when I was about 12 and I watched it all the way through as I grew up. It was silly, often a bit campy, and certainly not very high drama but it had a charm too it and allot of fans like me that loved it for what it was and because we grew up with it. Stargate universe very deliberately moved away from that though and hoped to try and find a new audience by being “edgier” or “more real”, but as is so often the case with such moves for allot of older fans it seemed like it lost it’s soul somewhere along the way.
 
Maybe SGU wasn’t awful, hell I’ve even seen people argue it was good on it’s own merits, and perhaps for certain people it was, but it wasn’t Stargate, our Stargate and that’s why it failed.

@Tk3997
 
«Raises finger to object» … I have nothing.
 
I concede to your well-reasoned arguments, for which I will consider SGU more a guilty pleasure

@Tk3997
 
Hey! That show had potential! It was like lost, except it had far more competent writers (Fuck Damon Lindelof)

@Tk3997  
Derp, I didn’t even know my keyboard had a key that would post if hit it…
 
Anyway yeah, Universe was awful and the ratings showed it, as did the fact it pretty much killed the franchise. The fact they killed Atlantis for it pretty much pissed off everyone to start with, and then to compound it they went and slammed a reset button so hard it penetrated a planets crust and exploded it in the series premiere.
 
There were so many infinitely better ideas they could go with that settling for the by that point UTTERLY played out “small group with no resources must scourge on stargates to live” plot was just infuriating. It was the same crap as early SG-1 and early Atlantis just warmed over with less likeable characters and more stupid drama added.
 
I wasn’t sad to see it go and it deserved to fail. My only regret is that the damn thing dragged the franchise into the abyss with it. It’s also IMO a highly cautionary tale that just because something is very popular doesn’t mean to can’t kill it FAST with a few bad choices, and that sometimes change IS a bad thing.

@Ebalosus  
God I don’t know how anyone could, what an awful show that was. “Stargate: Total Drama Starship”

It would be funnier if she ended up on the Destiny :P
 
_{Man, I really miss Stargate: Universe :’(}

This would really only be like maybe the third or fourth weirdist thing to ever come through that. Really the SGC makes Ponyville look like a sleepy mid-western town.
 
@JP  
If you want to be picky things have bypassed or forced it open before, it’s pretty rare, but it’s happened.

Unfortunately, the iris would be closed…

gigglefits  
How did I know that this would happen at some point?

@Prof.NightJack  
Sam: “Reminds me of a toy I got my niece.”

Jack: “What is that? Daniel, Teal’c, ether of you know?”  
Daniel: “I got no clue.”  
Teal’c: “As you would say O’Neill, “fuck if I know”.”

Fire on the Bogey.