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TheRedD20

@Background Pony #D4B2
First off G4 lore was not very cohesive. Alicorns have had like, 4 things said that we can definitively conclude about them (long lifespans, very powerful, originate outside of Equestria, alicorn births haven’t been seen in Equestria, and this isn’t even really a lot lore), so at least we know a specific answer to one of these. Prior to knowing the origin of alicorns is called Skyros we actually haven’t gotten any specific names on where they came from, but I don’t count the comics as they don’t follow canon G4.Where has G5 explicitly edited G4’s lore? Excluding earth pony magic because there are no fundamental laws of magic, so any argument related to magic related abilities absent in G5 can be chalked up to magic happens or animation constraints. Opaline’s origins in Skyros also don’t count as it was an addition to lore. It may at first glance that it is an edit, but according to “The Journal of the Two Sisters” which IS canon, it implies that they were fillies in the past, putting this scene before the events of the canon G4/G5 universe begin with the journal.
Second, jumping to conclusions based on small amounts or circumstantial evidence is a horrible way to argue or enter any conversation anyway and should be avoided because, if disproven later, it can make you look like “the boy who cried wolf”. Even if you aren’t disproven, it is still a bad idea as some people may find it irritating to talk to someone that asserts that they know something to be true without taking the time to analyze the situation. Also, from a marketing standpoint, it wouldn’t have made sense to do a reboot as both new and old MLP fans exist. Both G4 stuff and new stuff are now included that newer generations may find more appealing and may connect with more. Kids nowadays may not connect with Twilight as much as they may like Pipp; one reads books all day and one is a social media icon which seem to be on an upward trend (deliberately watered down personalities but that’s what the intended audience probably may see). I will admit that G5 seems like it’s trying to perform a balancing act of being relatable but also magical, and at times it can seem a bit forced, or awkward, however, the creators of G5 took fans of G4 into consideration and did not want our enjoyment of the show to end in 2019 and wanted to continue the story and mystery into another generation.
I for one think it’s a good idea to increase the amount of lore for G4, because for lore-nuts like myself, a lot of questions went unanswered because G4 actually established very little about more interesting topics (not including comics or most outside stuff as most is considered to be non-canon) such as the origin of alicorns and why are they so powerful (also having a fire alicorn makes a lot of sense if you think about it), the Crystal Empire and the Crystal Heart, Dragons, the fundamental rules and laws of magic, why magic in Equestria seems to be only connected to ponies, why the EQG mirror even exists, and many more questions that I could propose that could be answered in the series.
Sort of a TL:DR for some of my stuff here:
Very little about alicorns was ever talked about, and when it was, it didn’t go into detail (just some vague comments here and there). Seems a bit weird that people are getting upset about expansion of existing lore. Nothing is being undone/changed. As I have also previously stated, the MLP lore isn’t that great and mostly exists to explain whatever plot-device or plot-convenience the latest episode includes, like pretty much any other cartoon that exists to entertain that are on a similar level to G4.
Background Pony #D4B2
If only the info wasn’t so vague, we wouldn’t have to argue or jump to conclusions as to what’s real. This is another reason why I think G5 should have been a total reboot like the other gens. You can start fresh without having to worry and edit on previously established lore.
Jonny Manz
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Honestly, I love their G5 designs
@ApplejackFan204
Oh yeah, because if there was one thing G4 was known for, it was for its absolutely flawless continuity.
@Cosmo123456789
Yeah, I feel like it’s a thing where they forgot about her (being busy running Equestria and having lots of ponies in their lives) but she didn’t forget about them
@sxcbeast
Yeah, that’s possible - it’s possible that it was a punishment of some sort, but Opaline twisted it around in her telling to Misty that it was stolen without provocation - also, a sort of aggrandizement for herself, as the way Misty said it, it sounded like Opaline led her to believe that Opaline is the source of all magic.
@Background Pony #15D1
Apparently quite a few people fell victim to that misinformation/disinformation (since I’m convinced some of the people that spread it did so intentionally)
But yeah, change that to “almost definitely more Alicorns” and I 100% agree with you
@Background Pony #20DD
Indeed, The Journal of the Two Sisters explicitly mentions that they were around before Equestria, and that there is an Alicorn tribe/society.
@TheRedD20
Yeah, there’s a reason I have the two biggest offenders set to “Don’t show me videos from this channel” on YouTube.
@Starless
Making some assumptions there based on faulty information - nowhere is it stated that they were sisters or that Opaline didn’t know of Equestria (plus the Alicorn land was brought up in G4 material, The Journal of the Two Sisters)
@Snowy Comet
I know, this was such an exciting reveal!
@Background Pony #0375
I am kinda hoping for a longer flashback at some point
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This counts asa retcon?
I remember cestia once told that she never saw a newborn alicorn and now it seems that there was some kind of alicorn land.
The existence of an “alicorn homeland” has been known and canon since 2014. The Journal of the Two Sisters, written by one of FiM’s writers, mentioned it but unfortunately said very little about it. Now, we finally have its name: Skyros. And we know Opaline grew up there too!
I can’t wait to learn more!
Starless
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So Opaline is Celestia and Luna’s sister who existed 1000 years before the events of FiM, and somehow Opaline was never brought up at all in FiM? But then again, none of them were even from Equestria but some alicorn land so I guess Opaline somehow didn’t know about Equestria until after the events of FiM? Of course, Hasbro doesn’t care about good writing and lore. They just want to sell toys. Everyone already knew that but it does explain why MLP has poor writing.
TheRedD20

In the MLP movie, I could make a similar argument about if Celestia and Luna knew about Hippogryphs, then why didn’t she tell Twilight about them and if the Storm King had been ruling outside Equestria for so long, why didn’t anyone tell Twilight? This doesn’t seem like something worth complaining about just yet. Just wait, we’ll have MLP youtubers screeching about this in a matter of days. They preach the fact that MLP has great writing and to be fair it isn’t bad, but it isn’t god-tier writing, it’s full of plot conveniences and continuity errors just as most other kids shows are that aren’t focused on lore as much as some people want it to be.
Background Pony #20DD
I remember cestia once told that she never saw a newborn alicorn
Then you remember wrong. She said, “The birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen!” Yet there was clearly a time before Equestria existed.
Background Pony #D6AB
This counts asa retcon?
I remember cestia once told that she never saw a newborn alicorn and now it seems that there was some kind of alicorn land.
Background Pony #15D1
@sxcbeast
Who thought they were sisters? That’s just silly. They aren’t even related. Do they think just because she met Luna and Celestia once that makes them related? There were probably more alicorns around besides them.
Background Pony #15D1
Awww, poor Opaline. She just manipulates Misty with lies but she must be telling the whole story to her in this scene.
sxcbeast

If ya’ll watched the episode, there’s nothing concrete about them all being sisters, tho I’d still be down for that.
Opaline just says “theyre the favorites/golden children because they have the sun and moon thing” to that effect.
She mentions a place she grew up, i didnt catch thr name, so it’s possible they all grew up together and arent related by family.
@Background Pony #57A6
At worst, she had her magic stripped or was imprisoned like Luna for so long. Then opaline was “another 1000 year villian”, but failed to steal all the magic in Equestria.
Maybe part of Misty’s version of the alicorn story is true. At least the part about stealing opaline’s magic, but it was already stolen, and Twilight just stopped her from taking everyone else’s.
Background Pony #150E
everything makes sense, opaline is the sister of luna and celestia, she was hidden in the shadows since the events of My little Pony friendship is magic, I think she is responsible for all the problems that were happening in the kingdom of equestria. No villain spoke of her after Twilight defeated King Shadow, Tirek, Queen Chrysalis, and Flurry Heart.