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Macaroni C-Pony
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@CronoM
No, no I'm actually agree with your point about Sunset and Stygian.

By as I said my biggest gripe with this isn't the fact that Elements have been defeated. My Problem is how poorly it's done, in the context, compared to the the other situations (A Canterlot Wedding, Princess Twilight, Twilight's Kingdom)

The "restrictions" to the elements have always been apart of the current arc they were in. And at the beginning and end of season 9, the 6 realize they don't NEED the elements because they ARE the elements, and that power was inside them all along, they just needed to grow and learn to acknowledge that.

I've also always speculated that the virtue of "magic" was more of a virtue "faith" rather than… just raw magic, which fits into Twilight's character development like a Tetris block. As someone who's gone from constantly doubting herself to accepting her duties and understand the heart of why we have problems (just like Lauren Faust intended, to surpass Celestia)

This fits into my idea that Elements can in fact by used by anyone representing these virtues, as long as they have what it takes to "believe" in them

Going by what you said, Sunset considered herself a failure, then grew jealous, which turned into rage. She genuinely believed she WAS in the right, but for the wrong reasons. She wasn't fighting for a righteous reason, she was fighting for revenge, using righteous magic, which is what turned her into a "She-demon"

With Sci-Twi, she didn't have faith with what was already stolen magic from the humane 6. She was curious, but now allshe felt was fear, brought on by people who only cared about winning, and that fear enveloped her to where she thought she understood magic now, but only saw it's raw potential, treating it more like a tool to win rather than _a reason to win{

This when Sunset embraced those virtues, seeing an opportunity to finally redeem herself, and use the Elements herself. Empathy is to feel others, and with Sunset having a chance to represent the 5 others virtue throughout the movie, all she needed to do was believe.

This is why I feel Twilight is more directly closer to the Harmony and has the most potential to use them ALONE if ever needed, as Celestia and Sunset did. She HAS shown the virtues to represent the other elements, AND it was through the power of the others that made her a Princess in the first place. Her "magic" didn't just untie the elements. The Elements changed HER magic, altered it, morphing it AND her more and more into a pure embodiment of Harmony, as Discord specially told her during his fakeout. She is now that "belief" which unites "Harmony"

Actually that makes sense why Sombra was able to mindfuck her. She was in "disbelief" the Elements didn't work, and Sombra used this to "find a way through", however I remain skeptical until and if something along this line is explained.
CronoM

@Macaroni C-Pony
Btw, I'm aware I'm talking about mostly hypotheticals regarding Stygian and Sunset, but thats the vibe that show seemed to be leaning towards.

The Mane 6 inherited a lot of the sisters and pillars old messes, so one has to consider why those messes existed in the first place if the elements were so perfect, and when Stygian was introduced when the elements were first being discovered, it sends the overall message "this is where they messed up, so maybe the elements were never fully mastered"
CronoM

@Macaroni C-Pony
I'm not even completely sure if the elements of harmony EVER achieved their fullest potential in Equestia.

Regardless of whether one considers EG canon or whether Empathy is an element or not, it was made almost abundantly clear that Stygian was originally meant to be a pillar as well, but the other pillars failed to accept and trust Stygian completely, as the 7th chosen always seems to have moral greys to represent balance and understanding, that run counter to lawful good obsessers like Starswirled (or even Twilight when she prioritizes Celestia's wishes over everything else)….and Stygian fell without ever becoming a pillar.

And the elements have always seemed out of balance. One of the most reoccurring themes is whenever someone tries to gain control of the element of magic without being the chosen one of that element or not awakening as one yet, it instantly corrupts them beyond measure. Even Luna was a co-bearer to all 6 elements. Magic, unlike the other 5, isn't a virtue, so I've always wondered if there is a counter element to that.

So if you think about how many times the Element of Magic brought evil and chaos to those that dared touch it just because they weren't ready for it…

..can we honestly say that the elements themselves truly has infinite wisdom? Honestly, I'd expect it to be subject to some loopholes and limitations.

Besides, even if one does consider that full power itself flawless, using mind control or some other method to separate the 6 from joining their hearts and unleashing its power, would be the most sensible tactic. Even ultimate power has to have some restrictions, its not as if every victory is handed to them.

Although if we're talking about weaknesses covered, empathy power showed potential to undo mind control and communicate via hearts over vast distances.
CronoM

@Vaidelot
Exactly!!

One does have to wonder why this RD policy isn't used more often.

I mean you have someone who, in the theatrical release movie, thwarted the Storm King's quick and decisive victory LITERALLY in the blink of the eye by rescuing Twilight from the sealing crystal projectile faster then the eye could see, can smash into houses with the force of a bomb, and can perform a sonic rainboom.

Sure friendship is magic but even Human RD saved Sunset by smashing a giant carnivorous plant with super speed and super strength before it tried to eat her. Sometimes one method of friendship is high impact physical violence.

@Vaidelot
Remember that time in the comics Evil Celestia and Evil Luna appeared before them? Evil Celestia wanted to fling Twilight into the next mountain, but Rainbow Dash and Rarity beforehand initiated plan

"Let's kill them before they kill us."

Remember?

>>613555

Rarity watched Rainbow Dash sail into a very wide arc as Evil Celestia was busy monologuing, and at the last moment, Rarity tried to distract Luna while RD smashed into Celestia's neck to snap her neck and kill her, and while it failed, at the very least it stopped Celestia's attack on Twilight, and apparently a follow up blow to the same spot was going to kill Evil Celestia, but Good Sombra stopped RD with a shield cause good Celestia's life force was tied too tight to the evil one.

Between Super speed, flight, weather control and high impact super strength, why DON'T they just let RD go nuts on the less reformable villains? I know its a moral lesson story show, but she's clearly willing to use unstoppable levels of speed to thwart a villain's plan like in the movie, and she clearly has no qualms about killing an opponent who is about to kill them as shown in the comics, so why the hell not?

Non-magic users are way too ignored the world of mlp. Yeah some villains have ghost like or whacky forms like Discord, but for most other types….

… I find magic users have a tough time casting black magic when they've already been knocked unconscious before they can cast. Even area-of-effect stop movement spells only last for a very short period of time.
Macaroni C-Pony
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@Incursor
Discord is a 4th dimensional reality warping God of chaos who, while not invincible himself, is still capable of time manipulation, distortion, mind control, Trans dimensional teleportation, and potentially cosmic awareness as well as possible omnipresence who’d make Sombra his bitch any day of the week and HAS

The fact that HE needs to think ahead with elaborate plans spanning across thousands of years should speak for how powerful the Elements should be.

For a guy who could do this on a whim, he sure seemed pretty obedient in Keep “Calm and Flutter on”

And no. Needing time to set up doesn’t seem to be a requirement for the Elements. That just seems the be plot driven. It’s been implied many times that as long as they are together and there is a clear and present danger, the elements can and should be utilized and yet it simply not.

I’m not saying it should be infallible, I’m not saying it should be a deus ex machina. I AM saying the rules and limitations shouldn’t be so vague or obvious so that anybody could come along and make it look like a push over.

It’s a giant plot hole akin to the exhaust port in the Death Star (which was later thankfully retconned to be intentional design by a rebel contractor)

So yes, let’s wait and see for the writing to make up for this plot induced stupidity

And I’ve BEEN saying I HOPE we get more context to this, and that my argument is being taken by what we know so far.

I literally stated Sombra’s “explanation” was bullshit, and IF taken as fact, would be poor writing
Incursor

@Macaroni C-Pony
Just because the Tree is sapient doesn't mean it can chose or control the rules or limitations of it's powers. And Discord did take advantage of the Elements "loopholes or exploits" to nullity them long enough to show they are not infallible. And "Shadow Play" revealed the Tree was planted while Celestia was studying under Star Swirl so it is younger than Celestia (more evidence of it being just very powerful as opposed to omnipotent).

The seen requirements to use the Elements are all 6 of them are used together at once, time to set it up, and/or a friendship epiphany. Sombra took them out before those could be meet, the Elements being at their full potential doesn't make those exploitable flaws go away. The president it sets is that it is not a deus ex machina that prevents any problems but still they have challenges to inevitably overcome.

Maybe they'll use the Elements to fight off Sombra's control when push comes to shove. How about waiting to see how if it plays out in a way that addresses the complaints before judging?
Macaroni C-Pony
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@Incursor
However, that very theme is starting to be written as if a liability. What if someone attacks Twilight while she's on the toilet and her friends are miles away or doing their own thing? Or what if someone decides to take out the mane 6 one by one?

Remember, the tree of Harmony was sentient, just as old if not older than Celestia. I'm not going to believe in all it's infinite wisdom that it didn't account for the loopholes or exploits villains would attempt to take advantage of. Before it made sense because they weren't as knowledgeable or didn't understand it. But now, at it's FULLEST potential, we're supposed to believe this weakness was here this whole time?

And what precedent does this set for future threats, especially now that Twilight's sole ruler and will potentially outlive her friends.


Look at the context implied here. Sombra could LITTERALY order Twilight to just kill herself or her friends, nullifying the elements forever. Obviously plot won't allow him to, but the possibility that he could do is a glaring weakness that really SHOULDN'T exist. Especially considering the "requirements" to use Elements are pretty much all met here.
Incursor

@Macaroni C-Pony
It's inside her but she still needs her friends, pony or human versions, to trigger that power, or at least give her the right state of mind to use it.

"Overcoming fear and doubt in the name of friendship is what makes her powerful." That power is from her willingness to open up to/rely on friends which the villains fail by rejecting, but she still needs her actual friends to bring out that level of power. Without that she's merely a powerful and smart magic user but below the eldritch level of Sombra.

She's not so powerful she can overcome major problems like Sombra on her own strength and will, to do so would contradict the central theme of the series.
AC97
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition

I think it's fine for Twilight to lose to Sombra (even when she got her act together and started to push him back, she was the one starting to strain in the beam struggle, not him, before she got help, whereas he seemed to just be angry), but I think it's a better idea for her loss to be dragged out over more panels rather than just "instantly mind controlled," considering this is presumably after S9's premiere (or some event like that in a similar timeline, knowing the opening joke, and Chrysalis having some subjects).

It would've probably felt better if the Mane Six were more spread out, too.

I would personally sacrifice or cut down on the Scootaloo's Aunts part to flesh this out a bit, if I could.
Macaroni C-Pony
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~

@Incursor
Also, to add, Twilight is the the magical piece that unties the elements. This power is INSIDER her, she IS the heart of Harmony, especially NOW. And similar to Discord, she is capable of detecting magical imbalances. We've seen the Elements of Harmony tapped into despite the mane 6 not even being together of magic even being involved (Nightmarity, EG1 and 2, and even her ascension to alicornhood

This is what made her special, and this is where her true power comes from, because you're half right. It's not really about how strong or smart she is. Overcoming fear and doubt in the name of friendship is what makes her powerful.
Macaroni C-Pony
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@Incursor
I disagree. As we see Rainbow, Rarity, and Applejack clearly dodge what appears to be a direct blast. And I don't think the "prep time" argument applies here, as Twilight and friends are meant to be at their peak here. The true power of their friendship as been realized, and they are at their full potential. As I stated Twilight has now overcome her doubt and anxiety, with the mane 6 fully prepared for a fight, if ANYTIME would be the absolute perfect moment to use the Elements of Harmony once again, it would've been then and now.

I don't think it should be that easy to bypass this by just mind controlling half of them. And I think it's dumber that Sombra's logic behind this is more or less what the mane 6 were doing right then and there. That's what make his words hypocritcal

Given that, their newfound knowledge of the Decepticons, and the fact that needed the help of the Autobots, AND their other friends to fight them off the first time, I doubt they would wouldn't jump into their world without thinking ahead. It's completely out of character for them to blindly take risks (Okay Maybe not for Rainbow Dash, and maaaybe Pinkie) While yes, Sombra may have caught them off guard, it doesn't change the fact that they were together and the "combined magic" that defeated him seemed to be raring and willing to be used once more… and simply turned off for the sake of plot. Honestly, the vague mehtods shown to defeat/bypass the Elements are now just as confusing as the vague requirement USING the Elements

But it's the lack of context to his mind control that ruins the emersion. If Sombra's magic is as OP as it seems, why doesn't he just it more often? More so, how was he conscious while "dead" despite not being the case with Discord, the first time? How is it that strong, and what's stopping the Elements form protecting them from it again because the situation really isn't much worse than last time.

And if the Princesses KNOW how threating his Mind Control can work, why haven't they came up with a spell to counter it?

Discord felt threatened by a reformation spell he was was compelled to destroy, so surely it can't be that hard, given he's superior to Sombra. And why is it that Twilight, of all ponies didn't anticipate him to do something like this?
As the new ruler of Equestria, has it really never dawned that someone could just mind-fuck her now that she's back in Canterlot away from her friends.

And does the the fact she'd now potentially out live them mean the Elements will eventually be useless, even though Celestia and Luna both used them prior on Discord, and Celestia by herself on Luna, or Sunset in Eg3?
Incursor

@Macaroni C-Pony
@Macaroni C-Pony

1. Cadance could dispel Chrysalis' mind control, but Twi couldn't Sombra's control over Apple Bloom in S9 nor could Celestia Sombra's army in the "Crystal War" timeline. There is president that it is just that (much more) powerful that even Twi can't counter/resist/break it on her own. And his mind control spell has no components to deflect like Twi did his blasts, which she did because she had time to gather herself she did not have here. The making Twi hurt her friends critique might be valid but let's see how the story plays out.

2. About the Eggman beating Sonic analogy. A more appropriate analogy would be Darkseid beating Superman as the villains have been shown as just that powerful that the heroes are the underdogs here (that's how Sombra's portrayed, the success of that is another issue). As for the preparations they were prepared to fight Decepticons not Sombra who is a very different threat who they were extra caught off guard by given his resurrection.

3. The cutie mark switching spell seemed to tap into the Elements power or it being cast without Twi noticing or trying suggests it does not require high magic power to cast. And Twi's magical intelligence and learning ability requires time to apply (like coming up with a new/appropriate exotic spell), time she didn't have to come up with a counter to Sombra's mind control spell.

5. Eris was weakened from being a living battery or exaggerating her power. I agree with your argument that Twi's full power scales to Daybreaker which should overpower anyone short of Discord-tier, but accessing that depth of her power (without evilness) requires exceptional circumstances (like time to prepare) that didn't apply here.

5. The show hasn't had consistent magical power levels since S6 ("Horse Play" confirms Celestia is equivalent to 6 skilled unicorn mages, so "Twilight's Kingdom" had Twi the equivalent of 24 unicorns equal all the ponies in equestria + Discord?) If there is one consistency, It's that Twi, Celestia, and others have been worfed so often the only diegetic rational is they are not as badass as we like to think. The times they are badass are the exceptions. Regardless of their power they lack the badassery to reliably apply it in the head of danger. That is not a bad thing as the point of the series action episodes is friendship is more powerful and important than sheer badassery and it's doing something to keep us caring about it despite letting us down in that department.

And how is Sombra's claim in this panel hypocritical?
Macaroni C-Pony
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~

I don’t see myself as exaggerating, but maybe I am expecting more the mane 6 based on what I’ve made conclusions from

But overall I agree with most of your points, however I do have some counter-arguments:

While yes, Twilight is NOT a fighter. However she IS a learner, and it's the fact that's she's struggled for so long with said mental and psychological breakdowns would be factor in her improvement, rather than evidence to the contrary. As I've stated Twilight in season 9 seems to have finally overcome these issues to become more like Celestia.

I'm not insinuating she should be completely immune to or infallible. You're correct that to point that out. But she’s far from a push-over to somepony she’s faced before with and without her friends, and I feel like there should’ve been more conflict to the idea of this, or at least a better explanation rather than the poor excuse of a loop-hole Sombra provides.

It’s not really about strength or expertise, (to which I disagree I think Twilight is very expertise in the field of magic, given that she can swap cutie marks and copy the abilities one’s cutie mark can provide)

Rather it’s more about experience, as well as focus. I don’t see Twilight and friends prepared and ready to fight DECEPTICONS, and getting immediately yeeted by an old enemy.

Lastly I think the death argument is getting a bit too meta, but overall I feel the “most powerful magic of all” should’ve done more “Incapacitate” him than just “dispelling” him until a “spark of magic” brought him back, given his record

I think my biggest gripe is how vague and hypocritical Sombra's “explanation” regarding the Elements themselves.
Comparing what we’ve SEEN Vs. what he just stated… it's just not believable at this point their careers.
Background Pony #9F6B
@Macaroni C-Pony
@Incursor
I’m not saying Sombra shouldn’t best Twi, I’m saying Sombra shouldn’t best her so easily, especially in such a cop out way.


Like my Sonic analogy, Twilight shouldn’t really have a reason not to immediately be on alert as soon as she sees he’s come back, especially since her friends are with her, potentially ready to use the Elements in the Decepticons.

Honestly the situation here is no different than than the Last time.

Also, keep in mind in the comics Chrysalis had indeed legitimately already cast it as she’d crossed her horn with Twilight, but Twilight knew what she’d become if it happened as Chrysalis said she’d be the one to drain her friends, to which she then used Chrysalis own power boost against her, taking out the WHOLE HIVE, in the process.

Question is, how can Twilight do this do PREVENT herself from hurting her friends, yet Sombra literally just pulled the same thing against a stronger and more experienced Twilight?

More so, how is he even alive in his sense?

He was completely DEAD prior to Discord receiving him, and Discord was straight up ducking with him until the end, even when we thought Sombra killed him. But no it’s been established that Discord is superior to Sombra.

However, it’s also been established that Discord is inferior to the Elements of Harmony. Now I’m not saying Twilight could beat Discord by herself, but her magic is at least capable of rivaling his to a degree. Also, at the end of that, Discord, albeit cocky, tries to take hold of them, but Twilight’s OWN magic cancels it out, before they even begin to use the Element directly.

This is also evidenced by her canceling out his magic in season 2, hurting him in the comics a couple of times, and Eris, his cousin for an alternate universe, having STATED TO BE HIS EQUAL, begging Princess Luna for mercy, only to be blasted into Oblivion by Daybreaker, whom was defeated by Celestia when she had Luna’s magic.

It should be noted that THIS version of Daybreaker had killed her version of Pony of Shadows, whom our version was rivaled by Twilight for a bit (despite never even knowing him) and even stated she’s almost as strong as Starswirl.

Basically Twilight is comparable to all the big names in the series. With Discord potentially being above her estimated Tier of her and the 3 Princesses, as well as Sombra and Chrysalis.

There was a system of power here, ranging from ALL forms of Magic, and now Sombra (or more specifically the writers) just came a fvck day it all up, and now we have Sombra, who CAN’T be killed by the most powerful magic in existence, and apparently can comeback with just a spark, despite NEEDING Discord to revive him the first time, and was literally playing him just to make Twilight feel better about being a leader. Yet the same Discord can’t do shit to the Elements themselves without preptime, yet apparently he CAN be killed by enough raw magic as his cousin was. This whole comic is just headache inducing

Now you start exaggerating.

Firstly; Twilight is not an expert fighter as she grows up in a very peaceful world in contrast to most of the villains (Tirek, Chrysalis, Sombra) who came from a very violent world. She had become a skilled magician by necessity, but that does not mean she is a trained and mentally prepared warrior. Her power is due to her cutie mark which means she can master all the magic (it does not necessarily mean high expertise as seen with Starlight Glimmer), and it is known that she was getting too strong in S3 when she was to become an alicorn. But that does not mean that she, despite her bravery and leadership qualities, is able to overcome her opponents on strength alone. Starlight demonstrated this against Chrysalis who were many times stronger in the S9 final. Moreover, it has been repeatedly shown that even the most powerful magical creatures are not invulnerable to certain spells or do not have weaknesses, such as Discord which become powerless against anti-magic.

Secondly, Discord is not invincible or omnipotent, this is a bit too strong fanon based. He is a manifestation of forces of chaos that can not break with his nature as a spirit of chaos since the magic that gave him existence must be maintained. He is really a low-level god without invulnerability, more like a god of the Dragon Ball universe, who was also very vulnerable and full of faults. His weakness towards the elements of harmony is primarily due to the character of his own magic, the opposite of harmonic magic. He can very easily overcome all the alicorns in matters of raw power, but the chaotic nature would have made such purposeful use of force very difficult. That's why only one outside of Discord can master the magic of chaos, Pinkie.

Thirdly, there is no steady system of power when it comes to magic, it is a fluid and ever-changing force in itself as age, experience and cash use can increase the magic power of the magic user — secondly, in contrast to the physical law of nature is the magic is not constant, and thus will vary very strongly — so that it is only within potentiality and raw power that one can measure the magical power of a magic user. As the cutie marks in MLP have shown; there is a very large spectrum in magical property, expertise and strength.

Fourthly; no one is truly dead in a comic or show for younger readers / viewers until it is repeatedly emphasized. If there is no "Word of God" provision on characters' destiny, future writers are free to reuse characters — as seen very many times — as long as there is permission to use them. Some artists may patent their characters and thus determine their fate. A good example from Europe is Spirou & Fantasio from France. There, the artist Franquin had patented an important main character, the animal Marsupilami, which was kept away from all Spirou albums since 1968 — for fifty years.
Macaroni C-Pony
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@TheSultanAkbar
The issue is that Discord being able to bypass the Elements WORKS, barley losing every time he was the bad guy, having control of Time and Space, and planning thousand of years ahead, detecting magical imbalance, being FUCKING OMNIPRESENT… yeah he makes sense

Sombra bypassing the Elements using mInD CoNtRoL, is not. Especially, if he could command Twilight to HURT her friends, basically contradicts its own purpose.
Macaroni C-Pony
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~

@Incursor
I’m not saying Sombra shouldn’t best Twi, I’m saying Sombra shouldn’t best her so easily, especially in such a cop out way.


Like my Sonic analogy, Twilight shouldn’t really have a reason not to immediately be on alert as soon as she sees he’s come back, especially since her friends are with her, potentially ready to use the Elements in the Decepticons.

Honestly the situation here is no different than than the Last time.

Also, keep in mind in the comics Chrysalis had indeed legitimately already cast it as she’d crossed her horn with Twilight, but Twilight knew what she’d become if it happened as Chrysalis said she’d be the one to drain her friends, to which she then used Chrysalis own power boost against her, taking out the WHOLE HIVE, in the process.

Question is, how can Twilight do this do PREVENT herself from hurting her friends, yet Sombra literally just pulled the same thing against a stronger and more experienced Twilight?

More so, how is he even alive in his sense?

He was completely DEAD prior to Discord receiving him, and Discord was straight up ducking with him until the end, even when we thought Sombra killed him. But no it’s been established that Discord is superior to Sombra.

However, it’s also been established that Discord is inferior to the Elements of Harmony. Now I’m not saying Twilight could beat Discord by herself, but her magic is at least capable of rivaling his to a degree. Also, at the end of that, Discord, albeit cocky, tries to take hold of them, but Twilight’s OWN magic cancels it out, before they even begin to use the Element directly.

This is also evidenced by her canceling out his magic in season 2, hurting him in the comics a couple of times, and Eris, his cousin for an alternate universe, having STATED TO BE HIS EQUAL, begging Princess Luna for mercy, only to be blasted into Oblivion by Daybreaker, whom was defeated by Celestia when she had Luna’s magic.

It should be noted that THIS version of Daybreaker had killed her version of Pony of Shadows, whom our version was rivaled by Twilight for a bit (despite never even knowing him) and even stated she’s almost as strong as Starswirl.

Basically Twilight is comparable to all the big names in the series. With Discord potentially being above her estimated Tier of her and the 3 Princesses, as well as Sombra and Chrysalis.

There was a system of power here, ranging from ALL forms of Magic, and now Sombra (or more specifically the writers) just came a fvck day it all up, and now we have Sombra, who CAN’T be killed by the most powerful magic in existence, and apparently can comeback with just a spark, despite NEEDING Discord to revive him the first time, and was literally playing him just to make Twilight feel better about being a leader. Yet the same Discord can’t do shit to the Elements themselves without preptime, yet apparently he CAN be killed by enough raw magic as his cousin was. This whole comic is just headache inducing
Background Pony #9F6B
@Phoenixflambe
Sombra can be smart, but his pride always gets the better of him.

That's right- this is about making him a "cool villain" who makes him too popular when a writer has to choose from the worst and most notorious villains in the MLP universe. He is actually in the same second place with Tirek equal under the boss position reserved for the boss villain; Grogar. Sombra's intelligence, willingness to learn and total unscrupulousness are what reign supreme over his magical ability every time he had the lead role as a villain in the show or the comics. He does not shy away from planning and implementing his plans, even at very high risk. This is what made Sombra so formidable and so fascinating for the viewers and readers.

But every time he lost because he has a weakness; his pride. This caused him to make misjudgments and misinterpret his enemies and the factors that will lead to his downfall.

He had underestimated the Mane 6 twice, and not concluded with an unknown element, such as Spike in S2 — or the Discords double game in S9. In the IDW comics he had won under the "Siege" arc, but did not conclude that the umbrum was the unknown element that overturned his plans when he learned the truth. He is a skilled tactician, but not infallible. In "Fall of Crystal Empire" (which most fans — and even workers in Hasbro and IDW want to have as canon -) Sombra had skillfully manipulated the Royal sisters so that he could pick them out one by one, and won in the end. But as in the show and the comics, it was an unknown element that killed him and banished the Crystal Empire into the limbo with his spirit. He discovered far too late what was hidden in Luna.

Sombra's most dangerous weapon is not his magic — but his intelligence.