same here

@Background Pony #27FD  
I sincerely hope this is a joke

Turn off social media and go outside. Don’t wear a mask, that restricts oxygen supply and that increases your bodily distress that contributes to anxiety. Stop watching the news from around the country/world and start looking at your own community. Chances are it’s actually doing pretty well, if you’ve got the time to make memes.
 
Calm down, take deep breaths, and remember, the media—mainstream or social—profit off of you and use anxiety to keep you addicted. They want you in this state because that makes you more easily manipulated and dependent on their input.

@Background Pony #0F08  
“Would you say that the inability to justify going to the doctor or a friend out of an illogical fear of burdening them somehow with seeking help from them- is a sign of a brain not functioning properly?”  
No. That is a behavior that can be changed. If you were their friend, you would rightfully bonk them on the head because they were being an idiot. That’s not a mental illness - that’s just a basic fear of change and the unknown. I’m against keeping people in that state of mind, since it is not healthy, and it is very simple to choose the correct option (get help).
 
There are situations where people can’t get help. People with cancer who don’t have the funds. People with mental disorders and no family to fall back on. Those situations are tragic, and are not the situations I’m talking about. I get angry at otherwise healthy people who refuse to take actions to prevent/stop bad outcomes in their lives due to faulty logic and an inability to change. For some reason, people take that view as ‘self righteous’ and that I’m telling people to ‘pull themselves up by their bootstraps.’ Well, if you have two legs, two arms, and you aren’t mentally invalid/unstable…is that so hard to ask? For people to be responsible for themselves and their actions? To foster relationships in their lives so they can get help when they need it, so I as a random passerby don’t have the heartbreak of seeing them waste away on the side of the road because they were self-destructive? I don’t think it’s that hard to ask capable people of doing that. I would think it would be more fucked up to tell them not to worry about it, and that they can continue in shitty behaviors until they end up in a dark place they can’t get out of.
 
Better to be the asshole parent that tells their kid to straighten up and fly right, rather than the buddy that encourages an alcoholic to give booze to underage kids. Sometimes the things that people want to do are bad, and they should feel bad for doing those things.

@Ravemastaj  
While I agree on the “you eventually have to watch people die, powerless to stop them” front, I still disagree on your view of it being a choice you can make, what is your definition of a mental illness? Someone with a chemical imbalance or diagnosed preexisting condition? It’s not that black and white, you said you show sympathy only for those with actual improper brain function, would you say that the inability to justify going to the doctor or a friend out of an illogical fear of burdening them somehow with seeking help from them- is a sign of a brain not functioning properly?

@Background Pony #0F08  
“You can’t just decide to be alright.”  
You can decide to see a doctor. If it is out of your control, then they will proscribe Xanax, or a different anti-depressant, or any number of other solutions to the problem. Then it is on you, the patient, to follow the program and take your meds. I give leniency to people who genuinely cannot stop their issue on their own, as said way down here:  
@Ravemastaj  
If your brain legitimately doesn’t function properly for whatever reason, and you have an ACTUAL dependency on substances to live, then you are in the same posisition as a diabetic, and I have sympathy for you.
 
If you are an attention whore, I have no sympathies whatsoever.
 
“It’s not a decision…stop speaking in absolutes.”  
The fuck it isn’t. You need seratonin because of your condition? Take your meds. Are you an alcoholic? Stop drinking booze. These are absolutes. They are yes/no answers to a problem. Will medication 100% solve a problem? No, schizophrenics will still suffer episodes even while they are on their regimens. I can’t fault people who are fully following a program and trying their best though.
 
“So anyone who are unable to help themselves should just die then?”  
I’m going to make this clearer for you, using a little story.
 
A man is driving down a highway, and there is a turn coming up that goes out over a cliff. The driver continues to hit the gas, and does not change direction, even as they hit the barrier that prevents people from driving into oblivion. What can you, as a bystander sitting in the back of another car, do to prevent this? Nothing. You can’t stop the other driver from living their life in a destructive way. If they refuse to correct, and keep hitting the gas towards oblivion, then yes.
 
Eventually, you have to just watch people die.

@Ravemastaj
 
@Ravemastaj  
You speak in such absolutes about psychology, it’s a soft science with basically no certainties, there’s patterns, absolutely, but stop talking like you’re a hundred percent right.
 
Another thing, I really don’t think you understand how mental health works, it’s not a decision, you can’t just decide to be alright, there’s special cases of people willing themselves out of it, sure, but those cases are rare.  
“Waste of time space and resources” so anyone who are unable to help themselves should just die then?  
You’re not an authority on this subject because you’ve taken a psychology class or two, I’ve taken a few myself and I still know it’s impossible to know everything and half the shit I know is probably wrong and/or doesn’t apply to everyone, stop speaking in absolutes about things you can’t understand fully

@Background Pony #0F08  
“They’d rather die than get help.”  
And we see where that leads them. Failure and unwillingness to change behavior leads them to that place. I can’t make them do it. It doesn’t matter how much they whine, or even how much you decide to help this kind of person. They will never leave that place of dependency and failure. They will always be stuck there, nothing will change, and eventually you will run out of resources and patience to deal with them. Then, they really will die, and people like you will suffer survivors guilt over people who died inside long before you met them.
 
“It’s all they can do.”  
No. It means that they can’t get over themselves and CHANGE. They are the hypochondriacs of the psychological community. They are a literal waste of time, space, and resources. The sad fact of psychology and psychiatry is that it isn’t like being a regular doctor. You can set and mend bones, you can sew up arteries, you can administer emergency drugs…and after a time, it becomes obvious when you can send people away on their own two feet, or on crutches, or with a prosthetic. With psychology, you never get that. You administer drugs, only for your patient to cease taking them. You correctly identify the issues that they have, and even talk the patient into a program that will help them - only, the patient never goes, and their issues remain.
 
Eventually, doctors have to move on to other patients. If you can’t learn to do that, you are hurting everyone else.

@Ravemastaj  
Getting help for some people is the hardest part, dumping your burdens on someone else and saying “help me” is impossible for a lot of people, they’d rather die than become a burden in their minds. What do you say about people in that situation? Some people are incapable of getting help, all they can do is cream at the void and hope someone notices. It’s unfortunate but it’s all they can do

@Background Pony #0F08  
Then go get help. That is an action that has to be taken by YOU. I’m against people screaming into the void shouting “I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE!” and then they sit there like someone has to go rescue them. That’s dependency. That’s not a solution to problems. Expecting programs to come to you is stupid, and that’s how you get groups like ISIS preying on people, giving them resources, someone to lean on, and all they have to do is die for a cause. After all, they were already dying inside when they were found, weren’t they?
 
So yeah. Finding good help is something you should do on your own. If you sit around and yell at random people passing you, the person who stops might not actually give a fuck about you.

@Ravemastaj  
Easier said than done, once you’re in a hole it’s impossible for some people to get out without help

@Background Pony #0F08  
Your reaction to your suffering IS your fault. No one can prevent the circumstance - only you can move forward. Pro-active thinking solves problems rather than wallowing in them. Do better.

@Ravemastaj  
I’m sorry you feel that way, but if you think human suffering is the fault of the human that is suffering then you’re clearly delusional.

@Blackbewhite2k7  
>You aren’t being self-righteous.

@Ravemastaj
 
Yeah, Yeah. Bootstraps and all that self righteous crap…
 

@BigBuggyBastage  
I’ve taken psychology. Most mental illnesses don’t exist - the outbreak of ADHD and depression that you are seeing is simply a push to make money from pharmaceutical companies. If it wasn’t, then there wouldn’t be behavior modification in psychology, the whole point of which is to talk through issues with your patient and have them change themselves and their lifestyles on their own. If you aren’t seeing and hearing things that aren’t real, speaking word salad that makes no sense, can’t recognize people’s faces, or missing chunks of your brain from an IED, you aren’t mentally ill. You are a money cow.
 
 
@QueenChrysalisIsBestVillain  
How is it the opposite of how the way works? You are claiming that people can be mentally unstable and not do ‘bad things.’ I would argue those people aren’t mentally unstable then (like the guy who posted the image.) If you have coping mechanisms that are effective, then you can essentially solve your own problems without becoming a problem yourself. If you are talking REAL mental illness, most people in those situations with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder live in tightly controlled environments, and when they don’t shit goes south real quick. Going off their meds because they are feeling good that day is a dumb decision that is bad, and they do that shit all the time.
 
Real mental illness gets a pass because they legitimately can’t make rational decisions at times. They have an incapability. When people like you claim to be ‘depressed’ or ‘an Aspie’ because they don’t ‘fit in,’ or they are ‘at their limit’ it pisses me off.
 
 
@Background Pony #9138  
I wish I were a legitmate boomer. I guess I’ll settle with being a 30 year old boomer, though.  
crack  
siiiiiiiiiiip.

>me when the tech school makes me use software that doesn’t fucking work in order to receive a grade

You seriously can’t take it? To the limit?
 
Not even one more time?

@QueenChrysalisIsBestVillain  
I’m calling him a boomer indirectly.  
dead meme, I know.

@Background Pony #9138  
That’s such a random ass thing to say

@Ravemastaj  
You sound like one of those people that would lose their shit over getting called a boomer.

@Ravemastaj  
Wow, this is the exact opposite of how the real world works. Lots of people have mental illness and don’t do bad things.

@Ravemastaj  
Does mental illness simply not exist in your part of the world, or do you have little or no experience with it?