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AC97
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@evan555alpha
 
As far as a suggestion I’ve seen people have with S10 comics, I don’t mind at all if they decided to use her again as a character.
 
I will, however, preemptively say I’ll probably disown them instantly if they reformed her, as I’ve seen a few people want, since that’s the camp I’m in, regarding that.
 
But it’s fine to think otherwise.
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Her die-hard fans are literally asking for her character to be written badly just so she could be reformed.
 
I have done no such thing. In fact, I’ve long remained in the camp that she shouldn’t be reformed. Not everyone can be. That being said, I can’t say that I particularly like her fate in the finale, either. I’m hoping the S10 comics do something with her.
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@AC97  
I think it’s worth noting that all the quotes you picked out were from after her flight from the Hive. There’s no question that regaining her lost status and then some is one of her main goals at that point, but that does not demonstrate what the BP claims.  
And we can’t forget the possibility that she committed rape by deception either, can we? Would we honestly put it past her? She’s shown moral standards nowhere else.
 
I would discourage the use of speculative offscreen atrocities in this sort of analysis.  
Just look at how she violently reacted to the mere suggestion that maybe, her way of life wasn’t the only way, in the S6 finale
 
One shouldn’t forget the context of that “suggestion”. When it’s coming from a hostile intruder with little to lose and the suggestion itself is (or at least seems to be) dangerous nonsense, that “suggestion” would seem like a desperate attempt to incite revolt.
 
In any case, one should also consider her pride as a factor. Being of a conceited nature, she was clearly insulted by the idea that a pony or a “mewling grub” could know better than she does about leading her Hive.  
or how even in her debut, “food for my subjects” was heavily laced with “gain power,” not “nourish the poor starving little things.”
 
By that token, it should also be noted that she refers to “we” and “my fellow changelings” gaining this power, rather than just herself. Further, the power she refers to is gained by feeding on love, so it would make little sense to assume she’s talking about power of the “rule with an iron hoof” variety.
 
@Nebuluna  
She did a lot wrong, she’s undoubtedly evil in her current state. That’s kinda the point of ’reforming’ someone in the first place, to get them from being evil to being good. I honestly want her to be reformed, but dear fucking god I hate it when people try to excuse her actions.
 
Well said.
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I’m not trolling, but I am a masochist and one of my all time greatest fantasies is to be abused and hurt by her. So I see what she did as actually very great, personally.
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I know you’re trolling but I fucking hate it when people are like “chrysalis did nothing wrong.”  
No.  
She did a lot wrong, she’s undoubtedly evil in her current state. That’s kinda the point of ‘reforming’ someone in the first place, to get them from being evil to being good. I honestly want her to be reformed, but dear fucking god I hate it when people try to excuse her actions.
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then disregarded them for dark magic replicas and other alternatives, showing that she never actually cared about the changelings, to begin with
 
That is something that requires elaboration, I think. There’s more evidence that Chrysalis predominantly cares about ruling over others with an iron hoof, without being particularly about it being her hive.
 
With the Elements under my control, I’ll build a new hive of Earth ponies, unicorns, and Pegasi, and I will rule as Queen once again!
 
  • The Mean 6
     
Chrysalis, queen of the changelings! Or at least I will be, when I’m restored to my rightful place! Why did you summon me? What do you want?!
 
This quote from The Beginning of the End might make you think she cares about her hive in particular, but…
 
Our pact stands. What we do, we do together. Once we defeat the protectors of Equestria, we can claim this land and rule our kingdoms alone once more.
 
  • The Ending of the End, part 1
     
The harsh weather is the final blow to break the ponies’ spirits. Once Equestria is a frozen wasteland, we’ll use our magic to destroy those windy beasts. Ponies will be so grateful, they’ll do whatever I want!
 
  • The Ending of the End, part 2
     
    All of that put together, coupled with her general personality, and it seems like Chrysalis is actually very much like Sombra, who’d died twice for being a scumbag, in that she isn’t that picky on who she rules over.
     
Absolutely relished in deceiving and ruining the lives of Shining Armor and Cadance, and the mayhem that came from laying siege to Canterlot
 
And we can’t forget the possibility that she committed rape by deception either, can we? Would we honestly put it past her? She’s shown moral standards nowhere else.
 
But oh no, she’s this sweet, warm-on-the-inside fan interpretation everyone loves to pretend she is, right? Because headcanon surpasses canon when you just believe hard enough, right?
 
Trying to reform Chrysalis would be like pouring water into a sieve. It would never be enough for her.
 
She hates friendship, the idea of selflessly caring about others, and would literally dismember you with a smile on her face, because she’s a monster that wants to never stop, because she feels no remorse for anything, and I don’t thinn
 
From the get-go, she’s been a dark reflection of who Celestia is, in multiple ways. While Celestia is kind and benevolent, Chrysalis is cruel and sadistic to her core, and doesn’t care about her subjects’ well-being whatsoever. Just look at how she violently reacted to the mere suggestion that maybe, her way of life wasn’t the only way, in the S6 finale, or how even in her debut, “food for my subjects” was heavily laced with “gain power,” not “nourish the poor starving little things.”
 
You’re going against all authorial intent if you think she’s redeemable. Her thought process is supposed to be inherently unnerving, not cute and cuddly on any level.
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Name one thing Chrysie ever did wrong. I’m not saying Thorax and Starlight are necessarily evil themselves, but you can’t pretend that the “evil” that my goddess did was actually bad in-universe. Now it is true that there are comparisons to evil dictators and the like that could be made, but the difference is that everything Chrysalis does is her nature and the evil she wishes to inflict is what she was clearly biologically designed for. Nobody can blame her.
 
And it is basically a fact to me that everyone would be happier and better off as her slaves!!! Imagine how awesome that would be!!!! I fantasize about that all the time!!!!!! I want to be her weak love starved slave that worships her hooves and begs for a tiny sliver of love as she feeds off of all the love in Equestria!!!!!! ;)