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Background Pony #F41D
Revive yeah right put tons of C4 and detonate
this is for trying to rip Spike’s wings
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Background Pony #5912
@Background Pony #54D9
So it’s like being banned on Derpibooru? You get to hear people talk around you for thousands of years? Or are you unconscious/in a state of suspended animation when turned to stone?
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Smart Heart
@Aliu23
Right? And the worst thing is that they expect the bronies to do all the work of filling in the blanks to justify this ending which results in even more oxyayt. That’s not how canonicity works, DHX schmucks!
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Aliu23
Wallet After Summer Sale

@Macharius
That should have been the ending. If that happened, the writers could definitely get away with actually destroying Grogar instead of just temporarily turning the villains to stone. The whole Discord thing was bullshit.
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Background Pony #DF67
@HumanoSiniestro
well they’re not really dead, they can always be brought back. If Cozy ended up with the same fate as Sombra, the censors would not be happy with that.
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HumanoSiniestro
Gravedancer
I have to admit MLP is one of the few modern infantile shows that can show an infanticide with no problems. Excellent job done with that! Now fuck this.
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Macharius
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

@swordcat9
They had an entire 26-episode season to wrap everything up but only used five episodes to tackle the biggest, most complex villain event in the entire show (and in practice they only had three because the first two were basically a retread of the first time Sombra showed up and basically nothing else, then they went and disregarded the development shown in Frenemies so really it was more like two) and just one single episode to finishing the main characters’ nine-season journey – and even that ended up raising more questions than answers!

And it’s also worth noting that these episodes are written a long, long time before they broadcast. According to the leaked scripts the premise of episode 16 was laid down on April 12 2018, and completely locked in by August 17 2018. To compare that to an extreme example, each episode of South Park is smashed out in a week and they still manage to have plot threads that run through an entire season with quite a lot of development before the resolution.
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@Macharius
I think the writers didn’t really have enough time, enough episodes to write a great ending. The ending was good, but I find myself wishing they had planned a grand ending in advance.
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Macharius
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

@Background Pony #F962
I would agree with you if "Frenemies" didn’t happen. It showed that Chrysalis’ titanic ego can be tempered and she is capable of forming genuine bonds with others – remember that at the end of the episode the trio were this close to touching the magic of friendship all by themselves. If the writers had carried on that theme of real friendship developing between the three instead of just kind of forgetting about it and keeping them as "egotistical villains out to conquer the world for themselves but now they’re standing next to each other" then I think it would have been possible to redeem Chrysalis in a natural sort of way.

BUT it would require Grogar to actually have been Grogar instead of Discord in disguise (which is stupid for a whole host of other reasons that would completely derail this post). Having a common enemy in the ponies allowed Chrysalis to bond with the other villains, so the most logical way to open the door for a ’true’ redemption would be for the villains and the ponies to have a common enemy as well – Grogar. As a very rough idea, the villain’s plan to betray Grogar goes wrong and he ends up with his bell, perhaps after Discord and one of the Princesses have been knocked out of the fight. Neither the ponies or the villains are strong enough to beat bell-powered Grogar on their own, so they’re forced to put aside their differences and work together to defeat him. At several points during the final battle the ponies save the villains and the villains save the ponies, etc. and once it’s all said and done the ponies extend the hoof of friendship, which is very tentatively accepted in a "I guess we won’t try to kill you any more but we’re not friends okay" sort of way. Then in the finale with its time skip the trio can be shown again, reformed and still working together amongst the ponies in some amusing manner.

Unfortunately the writers seem to have been very lazy when it came to wrapping up the show and ended up retreading the same villain battle we’ve been seeing over and over for nine whole years now instead of trying to do something different.
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swordcat9
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@Smart Heart
I’ve always felt the core message of the show was that there’s good inside everyone.

Remember how Starlight offered to talk to the pony of shadows? And no one even wanted to listen because it sounded ludicrous and naive? She also once told Chrysalis that she didn’t have to run from friendship the way she once did,meaning Starlight believed Chrysalis would eventually turn good but was just wasting her own time.

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swordcat9
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@Background Pony #54D9
I think her tail is attached to Tirek. Anyway, regardless of what people say; I hope she does get redeemed. Otherwise the whole idea of redemption is pointless; it follows the whole "once a villain always a villain" mind set. I mean if Discord could turn good, anyone can.
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