Pony with care Remember to tag images of/about the latest(?) episode with spoiler:s09e17
Interested in advertising on Derpibooru? Click here for information!
Travelling Pony Museum

Derpibooru costs over $25 a day to operate - help support us financially!

Description:

You need to let the Dashie clone crash at your house :D
safe (1397060)artist:badumsquish (1679)derpibooru exclusive (19419)mean rainbow dash (145)the mean 6 (1298)alternate hairstyle (20536)bow (18407)clone (1479)couch (5753)cute (142379)dashabetes (6402)female (728177)lying down (7582)mean dashabetes (8)pegasus (178849)pony (666224)rainbow dash always dresses in style (1337)show accurate (7624)sitting (44580)sleeping (18788)smiling (176814)solo (858114)window (5719)
Source:

not provided yet

Comments

Syntax quick reference: *bold* _italic_ [spoiler]hide text[/spoiler] @code@ +underline+ -strike- ^sup^ ~sub~
74 comments posted
iTwilightSparkle's avatar
iTwilightSparkle
The Faithful Student
@Badumsquish
I like the idea that she’s the only one of the six content to change her name because it’s just easier XD


Something that can be shortened to one word so she doesn’t have to put much effort into saying it either.
Like Stormfront, to be cool and sound vaguely dangerous.
or Marney, to reflect her reformation and more relaxed mental state as a result of.
Posted Report
Power-Up&Sky-Blue's avatar
Power-Up&Sky-Blue
Wallet After Summer Sale

2 PWNYZ in 1
Not sure if this is relevant or not, but didn’t Pinkie have to teach Taffy and her countless sisters the names of her friends? I’m pretty sure none of them originally knew the names of everyone else, they only knew fun at first.
Posted Report
Background Pony #6C61
@Background Pony #89AB
@Background Pony #B9D2
Well if you’re just going to cherry pick what "counts" as evidence and claim the rest isn’t valid then this whole discussion is as pointless as trying to argue with a flat earther.
It isn’t cherry picking. Jim Miller confirmed as far back as May 2016 that the appearance of the duplicate Pinkie "was a gag". And with no additional sightings, no additional development, no work of any kind devoted to making it more than a one off joke, I consider it perfectly acceptable to treat it as exactly that.


@Badumsquish
@Background Pony #A28A
Pretty much the whole episode. Honestly I’m running out of things to say that aren’t repeats of what I’ve already said :P
Well… then I guess we’re at an impasse, because I simply don’t see it that way. As I said, the one specific moment I remember that could be argued as them "learning" is just them repeating something the original already knew. The rest is just them all having pretty much the same reaction to everything over and over again.

So… agree to disagree, I guess.
Posted Report
Ping_chan's avatar
Ping_chan
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Wallet After Summer Sale

Pretty soft for a Sony.
@Badumsquish
For what it matters, I really love the idea of magic bringing a clone into existence, but the clone gains full sentience and decides on her own to become her own individual.
She goes out of her way to come up with her own new name and cutie mark. Trying to do up her hair in a new way to avoid being mistaken for the other original pony.
Trying to make her voice sound original and moving to a new city to start a new life.
Seriously, I do stuff similar to this in my Fallout 4 play throughs with a few alternate start and role playing mods to do "escaped synths" role play sessions. :p
Background Pony #89AB
@Background Pony #B9D2
Well if you’re just going to cherry pick what "counts" as evidence and claim the rest isn’t valid then this whole discussion is as pointless as trying to argue with a flat earther.
Posted Report
Background Pony #A28A
@Badumsquish
That’s the thing, though. They were actually shown thinking, feeling, and learning in the episode. A lot, too, like it wasn’t a once or twice thing.
Ok, and what are your examples of that? Because I recall the episode, and the only thing I recall that was anything like learning was Pinkie having the clones review the names of individuals they technically already knew as a result of being copied from Pinkie. And as far as emotions were concerned, the real one had the only responses that seemed accurate to the situation. The inability of the clones to fully appreciate or appropriately react to the seriousness of their situation while failed ones were being returned to the pond all around them does not seem indicative of a thinking, feeling entity.


@Badumsquish
Not to mention, the one that was around a little longer and actually spent a bit of time with ponies was considerably smarter and more pony-like than the rest.
It also wasn’t a copy of a copy. Most lifelike among the increasingly inferior still does not make it a life.


@Badumsquish
Then a later episode shows they absolutely learn enough to live like normal ponies if given the time to learn. It’s a much bigger stretch to assume they’re unthinking unfeeling "copies", because the show pretty strongly showed otherwise :P
And I consider it a much more substantial assumption to infer a copy developed to the point of qualifying as a life from a 3 second cameo that, again, was intended as a sight gag, when the show itself never treats them as anything other than mindless copies.
Posted Report
Badumsquish's avatar
Badumsquish
Kalianne - Derpi Supporter
Generic Messy Hair Anime Anon - Seen and done more than you can imagine
Hard Work - Merited Perfect Pony Plot Provider badge with only their own art
Squirrel - "I like cute things"
Derpibooru Premium - Learn about the benefits of subscribing to Derpibooru Premium membership at https://derpibo
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - 10+ uploads with over 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Artist - badumsquish
Gold Patron
Happy Derpy!
Best Artist - Providing quality, Derpibooru exclusive artwork
Fine Arts - Two hundred uploads with a score of over a hundred (Safe/Suggestive)
Da Magicks! - Merited Fine Arts with their own works
Flexible - Bendy Pony
A strong love of donuts - Donuts!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
A Really Classy Artist - 250+ images under their artist tag
Responsible Disclosure
A Really Hyper Artist - 500+ images under their artist tag
The Power of Love - Made a piece of artwork loved by 1000 users
A Perfectly Normal Pony - "Real love is when throat isn't deep enough."
Magnificence - Artist with 100+ Safe/Suggestive images with a score of over a 100, and 5+ Questionable/Explicit images with a score of over 350
Friendship, Art, and Magic (5 Years) - Celebrated Derpibooru's five year anniversary with friends and got ANOTHER badge for it.
Friendly Griffon - For helping others attend the fifth anniversary party
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Chaotic Little Trees - 1000+ images under their artist tag
Speaking Fancy - Badge given to members that help with translations
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Cock-a-doodle do - Raises every morning
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Helpful Owl - Drew someone's OC for the 2018 Community Collab
Friendship, Art, and Magic (6 Years) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
Notoriously Divine Tagger - Consistently uploads images above and beyond the minimum tag requirements. And/or additionally, bringing over the original description from the source if the image has one. Does NOT apply to the uploader adding several to a dozen tags after originally uploading with minimum to bare tagging.
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Lady's Wink
Friendship, Art, and Magic (7 Years) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
Silver Bit
Heart Gem
Economist
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Element of Generosity - For users who have donated to the site
Thread Starter - Started a thread with over 100 pages; [NSFW] Artist's Group Chat - Draw The Curtains Edition

:𝐃
@Background Pony #6C61
That’s the thing, though. They were actually shown thinking, feeling, and learning in the episode. A lot, too, like it wasn’t a once or twice thing. Not to mention, the one that was around a little longer and actually spent a bit of time with ponies was considerably smarter and more pony-like than the rest. Then a later episode shows they absolutely learn enough to live like normal ponies if given the time to learn. It’s a much bigger stretch to assume they’re unthinking unfeeling "copies", because the show pretty strongly showed otherwise :P
Posted Report
AC97
@Background Pony #89AB

But what if there never was a Pinkie clone left over, and that was actually EQG!Pinkie?

Background Pony #B9D2
@Background Pony #FCCD
Well, your argument is based on the assumption that the clones weren’t able to think, feel, act and learn just like real ponies, but Badum doesn’t agree with that. Neither of you can prove that your assumption is correct
Yes, I understand that. But my reason for responding (i.e., because I felt he was misinterpreting my previous argument) is an entirely separate issue.


@Background Pony #89AB
Sight gags included solely for the sake of being sight gags are not something I consider "irrefutable proof".
Posted Report
Background Pony #89AB
@Badumsquish
@Background Pony #6C61
@Background Pony #FCCD
At the time of the episode, the writers clearly intended for them to not be able to "think, feel, act, and learn just like real ponies." But someone in the animation department decided to change that by adding that one escapee to Saddle Row Review, proving conclusively that the clones are every bit as "alive" as any other pony is. If you take Too Many Pinkie Pies in a vacuum then yes there’s no real proof one way or another, but with Saddle Row Review we have clear and irrefutable proof of Badum’s viewpoint.
Posted Report
Background Pony #FCCD
@Background Pony #6C61
@Badumsquish
You’re missing the point. Your argument is based on the assumption that the clones were able to "think, feel, act, and learn just like real ponies". And I don’t agree with that.

Well, your argument is based on the assumption that the clones weren’t able to think, feel, act and learn just like real ponies, but Badum doesn’t agree with that. Neither of you can prove that your assumption is correct, so this whole argument is really going absolutely nowhere. So let’s just stop before the mods have to intervene. Alright?
Posted Report
Background Pony #6C61
@Badumsquish
You’re missing the point. Your argument is based on the assumption that the clones were able to "think, feel, act, and learn just like real ponies". And I don’t agree with that. I think the test Twilight devises works because, like any reasonably sophisticated computer program, they can only give the appearance of being thinking beings. I mean, think about it… the reason the real Pinkie wins is because she is capable of grasping the stakes and ignoring the random impulses that normally interest/distract her to focus on the task at hand. The clones can’t. For all their appearance of thought, they are incapable of not acting based on their "program", derived from the original. It’s why they are constantly compelled to act randomly. It’s why they traveled around saying fun over and over again. It’s why they could not ignore distractions even when their "lives" were on the line. They don’t have a say in any of that. They don’t think. They don’t learn. They aren’t alive. And Twilight returning their magic to the pond is no more evil than uninstalling a program you don’t like.
Posted Report
Badumsquish's avatar
Badumsquish
Kalianne - Derpi Supporter
Generic Messy Hair Anime Anon - Seen and done more than you can imagine
Hard Work - Merited Perfect Pony Plot Provider badge with only their own art
Squirrel - "I like cute things"
Derpibooru Premium - Learn about the benefits of subscribing to Derpibooru Premium membership at https://derpibo
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - 10+ uploads with over 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Artist - badumsquish
Gold Patron
Happy Derpy!
Best Artist - Providing quality, Derpibooru exclusive artwork
Fine Arts - Two hundred uploads with a score of over a hundred (Safe/Suggestive)
Da Magicks! - Merited Fine Arts with their own works
Flexible - Bendy Pony
A strong love of donuts - Donuts!
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
A Really Classy Artist - 250+ images under their artist tag
Responsible Disclosure
A Really Hyper Artist - 500+ images under their artist tag
The Power of Love - Made a piece of artwork loved by 1000 users
A Perfectly Normal Pony - "Real love is when throat isn't deep enough."
Magnificence - Artist with 100+ Safe/Suggestive images with a score of over a 100, and 5+ Questionable/Explicit images with a score of over 350
Friendship, Art, and Magic (5 Years) - Celebrated Derpibooru's five year anniversary with friends and got ANOTHER badge for it.
Friendly Griffon - For helping others attend the fifth anniversary party
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Chaotic Little Trees - 1000+ images under their artist tag
Speaking Fancy - Badge given to members that help with translations
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Cock-a-doodle do - Raises every morning
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Helpful Owl - Drew someone's OC for the 2018 Community Collab
Friendship, Art, and Magic (6 Years) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
Notoriously Divine Tagger - Consistently uploads images above and beyond the minimum tag requirements. And/or additionally, bringing over the original description from the source if the image has one. Does NOT apply to the uploader adding several to a dozen tags after originally uploading with minimum to bare tagging.
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Lady's Wink
Friendship, Art, and Magic (7 Years) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
Silver Bit
Heart Gem
Economist
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Element of Generosity - For users who have donated to the site
Thread Starter - Started a thread with over 100 pages; [NSFW] Artist's Group Chat - Draw The Curtains Edition

:𝐃
@Background Pony #F903
I find those to be distinctions without difference. When you get down to it we’re just electrical impulses and chemical reactions driving a pile of meat, and it makes our lives no less meaningful or valuable. They thought, therefore they were. Besides, I believe an AI or an artificial life that’s capable of thinking, feeling, and learning just like a human being is absolutely an individual entitled to the same rights as we have. Not to mention, just that the ponies didn’t even consider this evil enough: how meaningless must the lives of others actually be to them to not even consider the possibility that these artificial ponies who think, feel, act, and learn just like real ponies are every bit as "alive" as they are? :P
Posted Report
redweasel's avatar
redweasel
Duck - "someone befriended them, saved them, coaxed them out of their shell, and showed them that sex is nothing to be afraid of. I’m kind of envious of that rape victim"

Fuzzbutt
@Background Pony #F903

> we suddenly get a revelation that Boulder is actually alive and has thoughts and hopes and dreams



you have a problem with that?
Posted Report
Comments74 comments posted