@Xaekai  
I guess a mutant strain like that would be really great for poor countries with problems keeping crops alive, but it does sound like a problem for countries like the United States.

@Xaekai
 
Then why do you hear about those anorexic people that only drink a diet coke for “lunch” and then faint due to these undereating habits?

@Background Pony #E5DD
 
They compel overeating through the unresolved insulin spike.
 
 
@Goddess Erosia
 
Modern wheat is only terrible because of Norman Borlaug. He bred a cultivar, “semi-dwarf”, that grows fast and is resistant to drought. For this he’s often been lauded as one of the greatest heros of all time. Unfortunately, this wheat accomplishes it’s feats by having almost no nutritional value. This wheat has less than 10% of the mineral and micronutrient profiles of heritage cultivars. It is also responsible for the massive surge in gluten sensitivity and celiac disease. And even more unfortunately, this cultivar now accounts for 99% of all the wheat grown on the entire planet.

@Xaekai
 
So if the bad part about these sugar substitutes is that they can lead to overeating, then wouldn’t that mean that as long as you don’t overeat your would be fine?

Coming back to this I may have been a little harsh on wheat and I’ll admit I don’t quite know too much on that topic specifically, but yeah I can still stand by what I said about sugars. It’s a shame because it makes life worth living, but still that’s the main thing to watch yourself on if you really cared about a good diet. Cut the sugars, but just go ahead and enjoy the nice bacon and eggs breakfast - that’s actually really good for you.
 
Sugar naturally occurs in fruits yeah but, fruit is like one of the main things humans were meant to eat, and they have lots of water and fiber and a great variety of vitamins depending on the type of fruit, so it’s really no problem. It’s overly processed food that’s cooked with lots of refined sugar that you want to watch out for.
 
Cutting sodas is also a great way to start a diet, but it takes a lot of will power for people who really like them. People really underestimate how much of a difference it makes though because we tend to care more about solid foods we need to chew as opposed to things we drink which could actually be far worse for the body. A soda just doesn’t “feel” as bad compared to cupcakes to someone concerned about their diet, but it could be just as bad or worse depending on how many and how often.
 
Pinkie here sure doesn’t seem like she’d be pleased to hear any of what I just said there though.

@Agent Tasmania  

 

 
– Chapter 15, The Diet Soda Delusion. The Obesity Code, Dr. Jason Fung.
 
 
That’s not even touching upon the extreme increased risk of heart attack.
 
 
@Goddess Erosia  

 
That’s because the human bodies preferred fuel source is fat. Why you do think the human body even stores fat in the first place? Why do other top predators such as lions eat the fattiest bits of meat first? It’s because fat is good for you. The low-fat diet pushed by the government is the biggest medical mistake in human history.

@klystron2010  
yes probably

>sugar-free  
Well, that’s nice…  
>caffeine-free  
May reality reject you entire existence and retroactively remove you from this timeline.

@Goddess Erosia  
>aspertine
 
You mean aspartame? I’ve only heard of that, acesulfame-K and sucralose as far as artificial sweeteners are concerned.

@Agent Tasmania  
Yeah I’m more inclined to agree that there’s nothing worse for you than actual sugar. Aspertine DOES however cause headaches, and I will literally hunt down and murder the families of anyone who tries to argue otherwise because I know it first hand for a fact.
 
My biology teacher back in college did an entire class day on how the food pyramid was a complete and absolute myth cooked up by lobbyists from the sugar industry in America that were upset that people were turning away from sweets, so they invented an entire line of media propaganda to fear monger about basically all other kinds of foods, some earlier versions even going so far as to imply that we NEED sugar in our diets, as in like a lot more than actually necessary - like we needed to MAKE SURE WE GOT OUR SUGAR instead of just having enough in our diet by default by existing in America. They got pseudo scientists to write fake studies for this that did that while demonizing the hell out meat and eggs.
 
Bacon and eggs are actually a great source of nutrients, but the sugar industry literally started an entire generation of media that’s brainwashed Americans into thinking they’re just the worst thing ever - like even being in the same room with them gives you diabeaters, even though a hand full of bacon is actually more filling and nutritious than a steak dinner.
 
There was also some bullshit from the wheat industry - THE HUMAN BODY DOES NOT EXPLICITLY NEED GRAINS TO SURVIVE. That’s purely an economy thing in the United States. But even to this day, there are actual .gov sites for the United States of America that literally direct citizens to buy wheat products and get healthy grains, even though they can get the same nutrients from much healthier sources.

@SmartMars603  
100% bullshit. It’s kind of amazing how many things the sugar industry have succesfully defamed deep into the public consiousness.

I heard the substitutes are actually WORSE for you than actual sugar.

@spikls  
DEAR GOD  

@Communist Starlight  
as the transformation completes I foam diet coke at the mouth, spewing the liquid everywhere, before my face disfigures itself reforming into the top of a soda can

@spikls  
IT COULDN’T EVEN HAVE BEEN LIKE, REGULAR COKE. NO, DIET COKE.”

@Communist Starlight  
looks at my right hand
 
AAAAH I’M TURNING IN TO A FUCKING DIET COKE CAN!!!!

@spikls  
Yeah, your right.

@Communist Starlight  
Hey, don’t be mixing up coke caffeine-free with coke zero (though there also is a caffeine-free zero too)!

@Background Pony #9503
 
It’s interesting you mention urine since I heard… those sugar substitutes pass intact through the bladder. So that’s a plus if you are into that…

@Goddess Erosia  
Hey, babies taste excellent, with or without aspartame!

@Agent Tasmania
 
I don’t know about any of the cancer-causing claims that people say about pretty much…everything we eat, but I absolutely promise you that the “myth” of aspartame causing headaches is absolutely not a myth and more than that I dare say people who say it doesn’t are part of a conspiracy to protect the product and eat our babies.

Brown soda water with notes of aspartame.
 
I don’t buy any myths about the sweeteners, but I would rather not taste them.

That coke zero bullshit

@Dust Rock  
You drink soda for its caffeine content??? wtf? That’s hardly useful. When you need to wake yourself up, every single soda with caffeine will simply make you crash like 20 minutes later, the only thing worse being the diet sodas which are borderline toxic with the damn headache fever dreams they cause. Aspartame is cancer - I don’t care what people say when they deny what it does, I swear to you it murders my brain.
 
Anyway, everyone I know, myself included, drinks sodas because of the taste. Maybe some ingredients to certain kinds are used for flavor and caffeine is just a side-effect, I don’t know, but really I see no point in using soda for its caffeine content. For me at least, it’s never useful for that. That’s just a side effect.

@Dust Rock  
Indeed, some of us have diabetes – no, I did nothing to acquire it, I have had Type 1 (insulin-dependent) since I was five years old.
 
As for caffeine-free, I also have need, because any more than that which I get from two cups of coffee per day has very unpleasant consequences, due to the many medications I take.