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mjangelvortex
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

Lady of Ships and Birbs
@Background Pony #1D02  
I don’t mind the segway. In fact, I liked reading and discussing this with you.
 
I’m not gonna deny that she was very maniplulative and enjoys tormenting others for her own pleasure. In fact I think what she did to Shining Armor, Cadance, and Twilight was really vile and downright creepy. That brainwashing spell she did to Shining combined with the Changelings being similar to being succubi/incubi kind of made that moment feel like she was slipping him a G-rated micky of sorts. Even disregarding that, it looked pretty inhumane. Then add the fact when we seen Cadance in that cavern, she’s pretty beaten up. Who knows how long she was even in there? Chrysalis may have intended for Cadance to die of thirst or stravation in there for all we know. Or alternatively, she might have intended for her and Twilight to kill each other.
 
So I’m not trying to downplay her misdeeds. I just liked the idea that despite those evil things she’s done to ponies, that she does care for her hive (in her own twisted way if anything). Blood is thicker than water most of the time, right? Ponies to her are her prey and playthings but other Changelings are her family, army, and kingdom.
Background Pony #1533
@mjangelvortex  
Fair enough. I do think the dynamic between Thorax, Pharynx and Chrysalis would be fun to explore in the show, whether in an unhealthy family setting or otherwise, because I’m sure there’s tension and unreleased anger, there. Pharynx probably just doesn’t like her - especially now that she’d be a threat to the new hive - and I’m sure Thorax has very deep feelings concerning her, considering they’re polar opposites and she’s largely the reason he, nor any other changeling ever discovered friendship.
 
Honestly, whether she knew about it or not is irrelevant, and really isn’t much of a plus for her. She still willingly kept things in the status quo, because it was beneficial to use the changeling’s need to feed as a means to conquer nations. When Starlight started speaking of a potential better way, Chrysalis shut her down aggressively, right away. Safe to assume she’d have done the same thing with any changeling who tried to find a better way. Why? Because I’m willing to bet she didn’t want to believe there was a better way, because that would be a threat to her power, her position. No way to please your need for control and power if your people are self-sufficient, and don’t have a sense of desperation you can manipulate.
 
Unfortunately the ‘she’s hungry too’ argument isn’t a powerful one, because she already proved in Canterlot Wedding that she enjoys manipulating and tormenting others. Her entire chorus number and general excitement for enslaving Canterlot went way, way beyond satisfying physical hunger, and into ‘evil for the enjoyment of evil’ territory.
 
I really don’t have a point to give towards your gif moment, other than she was perhaps faking. All I can tell you is that, in my mind, Chrysalis’s entire character up to this point in time has been built to be irredeemable. She has absolutely no depth of character past conquest and power, and openly enjoys manipulating, imprisoning and tormenting those beneath her. She’s like a pig in mud, what the other changelings perhaps saw as a curse, she absolutely revels in.
 
I enjoy Chrysalis’s character, but to me, anything at all that’d hint towards her showing regret, or trying to give her some kind of sympathetic backstory in order to somehow redeem here would, at this point, feel incredibly out of character and hard to believe. She’s been depicted as so far in one direction till now, they’d need to slowly redeem her over the course of a few seasons as they did with Starlight and Discord for it to even seem believable, and seeing as S9 is it, that’s probably not gonna happen.
 
…sorry, I think we kinda changed the focus of the topic from family relationship to Chrysalis’ character in general. I segway a lot.
mjangelvortex
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

Lady of Ships and Birbs
@Background Pony #1D02  
I’m very well aware of that. I like headcanoning that their family situation isn’t a healthy one.
 
That being said, despite that I don’t know if Chysalis willingly did this to the other Changelings. I don’t think she knew about the other healthier methods of feeding. Keep in mind she’s still in the “cheese” form herself so she’s essentially starving too. There was also a moment where she looked like she was genuinely considering on taking Starlight’s hoof.  

 
But ultimately, I think her pride got to her and ended up being her downfall which made her lose everything she had, family included. Had she swallowed her pride and tried compromising with her family, she probably be in a better situation.
Background Pony #1533
@mjangelvortex  
Even if she is thier birth parent she’s definitely not a mom. A mother doesn’t use her children’s ceaseless hunger as a means of conquering the world. A mother doesn’t forsake her kids once they find a better way - hell, a mother doesn’t willingly keep her kids from finding a better way just because it’d jeopardize her selfish need for power.
 
She cares way more about her own power and ruling the world using the changelings as extensions of her will than she does the changelings, themselves. She’s manipulative, that’s what she does. Her care for the changelings ended where they stopped bring useful to her, as the S6 Finale proved, and her previous appearances showed.
 
There is no family relationship there, sorry to say. Not a healthy one, anyway.