Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhh…

No, but the circumstances called for it; do or die.

@Goddess Erosia  
:o accurate

@Anon#69  
And how was Celestia supposed to study the properties of the elements? Celestia and Luna are the first owners of the elements of harmony. And she had nowhere to get information about the work of the elements, except in an experimental way. And what do you suggest, she needed to put experiments on her subjects?

@Anon#69  
Well I’m obviously not the only one who thinks you were trying to say Celestia is somehow a giant asshole for banishing her sister despite why she actually did it so you should probably word your arguments better. And still… You’re speculating about things that there is not only no evidence for, but the show itself is structured in a way to suggest your theory isn’t true.
 
“If the elements could fix her 1000 years later they PROBABLY could have worked at the time she was banished” While there is little that suggests that isn’t true, there’s nothing to suggest it is. Again Celestia only rightfully bore half of the elements before, and it’s implied that Luna and Celestia basically were playing the role of the future mane six at the time, which means that at that moment the whole idea of friendship and its power was split, therefore she could not get a true good ending, only a temporary solution. Sucks for Luna yeah, but that’s not Celestia’s fault. Nothing beyond what ever kind of emotional neglect that led up to that moment she went nuts at least and this point isn’t really a valid one to use.
 
So she was rescued with the same thing that banished her - that doesn’t prove it could have been used before a thousand years passed. Again there’s nothing to suggest Celestia would have purposefully waited or screwed around in all that time just because. It’s more likely she spent just as long trying to find a way to fix the situation, and the fact she started teaching the magic of friendship is evidence for that. She was trying to create pupils who could someday bare the elements in a way she apparently couldn’t anymore, and failed several times. Sunset Shimmer is an example of one of her failed attempts. If in the Pilot Celestia herself actually used all of the elements of harmony to save Luna, after NOTHING HAD CHANGED between when she banished her and when she brought her back, that would be evidence that Celestia could have rescued her sister a day later instead of a thousand years later. But that’s not how it happened, therefore the fact the same /tools/ were used for both actions DOES NOT PROVE Celestia fucked around for a thousand years. There’s more evidence she was trying to find a way to get them to work right again for all that time and they weren’t just going to work with her alone.
 
“Celestia could have took the time to study the elements more” Yeah, not when she’s literally under attack and Luna is literally in the middle of trying to take over the world. If you mean that AFTER the banishment, you still don’t know what she was canonically doing for a thousand years. Again there’s still more evidence that this is exactly what she was doing as opposed to screwing around or neglecting the idea. Instead of shitting on her for taking a thousand years to finally finish, maybe it’s instead commendable that she might have actually spent a thousand years trying in secret.
 
“She could have found the time beforehand to prepare” Yeah that’s exactly what I’m sure she was beating herself up for over a thousand years but that’s hardly a fair criticism. If she didn’t fail in some way we’d have no conflict and no story, and its heavily implied she had a lot of guilt for not seeing what Luna was becoming or being there to stop it from happening before it happened. Again she’s not perfect, Luna didn’t just go crazy for no reason, though we’re still not shown much of exactly what led to it.
 
“she could have captured NM” YEAH LOL SO IN OTHER WORDS SHE COULD HAVE WON. Yeah. That’s true - she could have won the fight. But that’s essentially like saying “get gud”. You could say that to literally anyone who’s ever lost anything ever and that wouldn’t be advice, that’s just trash talk. If you meant she could have studied NM after the banishment, again you have no way of knowing that’s not what she was doing or trying to do for a thousand years. That’s still not a valid thing to use against her.
 
And to go back on a previous comment, I had wrongfully assumed maybe you read a comic I hadn’t that implied Luna was hated by the public and constantly ridiculed and berated and whatnot and I took your word for it when you said that. But if that other guy calling you out is right, that’s also a wrong thing to assume. You can’t just say something happened in a certain way without actually knowing if it happened that way. All the show at least states is that Luna was upset that everyone slept during the night and she felt like she wasn’t getting enough attention or appreciation. That’s not literally being hated on by the kingdom at a daily basis and her “raising the moon every night despite the hurtfulness and the hard work building up inside” is not a valid conclusion. For all we know she was as eager as she could be to raise the night and make it better and better every night but was only uspet because still no one really stayed up to see it. That’s still different from being bullied and picked on while you do your work. Also you say Luna only wanted to imprison her sister. That’s also a wrong thing to assume and shouldn’t be used to build more sympathy, because WE DON’T KNOW WHAT NIGHTMARE MOON WOULD HAVE DONE. We can assume it wouldn’t have gotten bloody only because the show’s rating wouldn’t put characters in such peril, but they can still get away with implying something like that was avoided without explicitly stating that could have happened. You also said all she did was “make the night a few hours longer one day which led to being banished for a thousand years” which is probably the worst part of the whole comment and the reason everyone’s reacting this way to you. Again, she literally declared she was going to be THE ONLY PRINCESS and that the night will last forever. The way you said it made it sound like that was implying that Celestia’s reaction was unwarranted.
 
If you were saying all this to just explore how unfortunate Luna’s situation was, without actually trying to justify her actions and without just laying all the blame on Celestia and painting her as a lazy, neglectful asshole who deserved it, then you’re the one at fault for not making any of this clear because your wording and the context was awful. I made a comment making fun of the OP for skewing the situation to make it look like one sister is just a complete unwarranted asshole, by reminding there was a reason the banishment happened. You would be right to explore that further and talk about how the opposite wasn’t true as well - that Luna isn’t just a complete asshole - but ironically the way you said it just made it look like you were going right back to the other side of the scale that the OP’s image is at. It really looks like you’re just piling on one thing after another as reasons for why Celestia was wrong for banishing Luna and that we should hate her.

@Background Pony #4A63  
No, but if you’re in possession of some legendary magic stones that can be used in a whole plethora of situations I’d study them.

@Anon#69  

 
It’s logical to assume that friendship is necessary for the work of the elements of harmony. And at the moment when Celestia used them against the HMM the harmony between the sisters was broken and the elements did not work as expected.  

 
Do you often study possible protection options from your close relatives?

@Goddess Erosia  
How is that justifying what NM did? I’m clarifying what I said. The first comment just goes to show how poorly the situation was handled and how horrible it was for Luna in particular. I also think it had a chance of being handled better by Celestia, and never said she was unjustified. The same thing that fixed Luna is the same thing that banished her. If they can fix her 1000 years later they probably could’ve worked at the time if she either took some time to study them either beforehand as she should’ve with what’s essentially a magic fixall nuke, or managed to capture NM and study in the meantime.

@Anon#69  
Yeah, Hitler only exterminated a few Jews. What’s the big deal? I mean it’s not like he actually annihilate the entire race. And he only actually invaded maybe like 10 or so small territories for the third Reich. He wasn’t trying to take over the whole world or anything. What’s that? He actually was nuts enough to think he could occupy the United States? Ohhhh. What’s that? The murder only stopped because the allies destroyed the third Reich? Ohhhh.
 
You’re awful.
 
Also, bare in mind I’m comparing NIGHTMARE MOON to Hitler, not just Luna. You seem hopelessly sympathetic towards her either way though. I mean seriously… in what way is it /not okay/ for Celestia to have banished Nightmare Moon? Are you saying it was wrong to do that to her just because she DIDN’T GET THE CHANCE TO DESTROY THE WORLD FIRST??? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
 
When a man goes into a highschool and starts shooting a riffle, we don’t consider him less of an evil asshole if he didn’t actually manage to kill anyone before being stopped. In that instance he’d get no murder charges but he’d still be RIGHTFULLY hated and we’d all be scrambling on how to deal with him, having just averted what could have been a SERIOUS tragedy.

@Anon#69  
This does not cancel what she intended to do.  
And nowhere was it said that public hates Luna. It would be too cruel for a children’s TV series. Simply, her work was not evaluated as highly as the work of Celestia. Probably because the role of the night psychiatrist and the head of state is not comparable in importance. And in such a utopian society as Equestria, help from Luna can come in handy only to children and unbalanced personalities like Starlight.

@Background Pony #4A63  
Yeah, that’s all she did. Not what she tried to do.

@Anon#69  
>The night will last forever  
>All you do is make the night a few hours longer one day

@Goddess Erosia  

@Anon#69  
I never said Celestia was completely in the right, she has guilt for a reason. I also love Luna. The point is that idolizing either character as “the pure one” and shitting all over the other one is stupid, and the banishment did happen for a reason. Celestia’s not just a scumbag who did it because she felt like it.
 
Also, dude, she wasn’t banished until she literally went nuts and started attacking the kingdom. Celestia even got /shot/ with a generic magic missile. Though it may have been her fault for letting her relationship with her sister be neglected up to that point, she didn’t just go “LOL gtfo you can’t have the moon out for longer than normal” and banish her on the spot because she felt like it. Luna basically declared war and literally said she wanted eternal night, and her behavior didn’t suggest things would be very good at all for their people or her sister. Who knows what she would have done with Celestia had she won, but it’s heavily implied she was going to be a tyrant ruler at least to some degree.
 
There is also no indication that she purposefully fucked around instead of trying to find a way to cure Luna. Fans can interpret that way, but that’s obviously not what the show tries to paint Celestia’s character to be. If anything you could argue she spent a thousand years, building up magical friendship schools and teaching ponies, trying to create the mane six so she could save her sister. Celestia used the elements to banish Luna only as a last resort because she failed to make the situation any better, and normally she wasn’t the true bearer of them all to begin with. She embodied half while Luna embodied the other, previously when they defeated Discord. So that could be evidence to suggest that she herself could not “use the true power of friendship” to fix everything and make Luna better, only being able to misuse the elements to create a temporary solution.
 
You could realistically argue that surely it shouldn’t have taken her a thousand years to fix this, but eh, some things could be chalked up to logic holes and cheap writing. The show isn’t perfect, especially the pilot which I feel is probably the worst part of the entire series despite being the most important. For its target audience, the show didn’t need to make perfect sense - it’s not House MD or Breaking Bad. The show just needed to have the story start out in a way that the whole Luna thing was long enough ago to be mysterious, and make the mane six all vastly important right off the bat, for them to do something that had never been done before. These things coming together give the show its basic plot and its purpose to exist, at the expense of some believability if you really sit down and analyze it.

I love this meme lol. “Is this a pidegon?”

@Goddess Erosia  
“Being hated by the public and building up a super strong jealousy and depreciated self worth but doing your job regardless anyway until said jealousy and overall negative emotions get so strong that it becomes its own entity and possesses you and tries to make you make the night eternal which involved trying to beat and imprison your sister because no killing, and all you do is make the night a few hours longer one day leading to spending probably a quarter of your life on the Moon in total isolation with an angry spirit controlling you only to be fixed by the same weapon your sister banished you with but being used properly this time when you come back, proving that you could have been saved 1000 years ago and not had to spend a millenia suffering on the Moon if Celestia had bothered to actually try and help her sister and taken time to figure out something to do instead of just worrying that the world would be lit by a sky full of stars and the Moon for a few days instead of the Sun while she figured out what to do. If the Tantabus is anything to go by, Celestia probably did nothing to help her sister before her banishment despite clearly severe mental/emotional issues, or at least did so poorly” more like.

Forgetting that said little sister tried to kill big sister for not giving her enough attention  
is this ignorance and idolization of someone’s favorite pone?

Seems more like tough love.

Yes. Yes it is.