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Did I miss something, or is there a 7th element of harmony? Or am I misreading?
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if you’re a nerd!!!
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Don’t be discouraged. It’s nice to extensively think about stuff you care about.
Yeah, now I feel like I wasted a few hours thinking about it.
eight elements
I think that was already established, yeah.
I’m probably overthinking things, but if it’s about the magic that ‘made’ the geodes here’s what I think. Otherwise, carry on.
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Feel free to correct me at any point.
Assumptions:
[1] The element of magic was the initial entry point of Equestrian magic into the new world
…. - The CHS girls (5 of them anyway) received magic from the element and were able to retain it. Sunset must have been able to retain hers as well from wearing the crown/element, but was only able to harness it properly once she fully accepted (and was reciprocated) friendship at the climax of RR.
[2] Anyone who received/inherited the first batch of magic in EqG becomes an extension of the element of magic/elements of harmony
…. - This just means that the main 6 inherited magic straight from the element, thus whatever magic they had is as good as the one from the element(s).
[3] Magic from the element is stable; i.e. it cannot ‘leak’ without external influence
…. - Up until the LoE ending stinger, magic is not shown to be ‘leaking’ from the main 6/7, otherwise other students should have been using magic later on. As for external influences:
…….. > The sirens had their gems to absorb their magic.
…….. > (then-)CPA Twilight unintentionally took theirs with her magic pokeball necklace.
[4] A ‘leak’ somewhere became the second entry point of magic
[5] Magic from the second entry point created/empowered the geodes
…. - We know this since in Gloriosa’s memories, she saw magic that entered a cave and followed it, where she found the geodes.
…. (a) Sunset caused the leak. Under [3], let’s also assume that magic other than that from the element is unstable and can ‘leak’, thus after using it on Midnight Sparkle it leaked into the world.
…. (b) Midnight Sparkle ‘caused’ the leak. Under [3], the magic from the elements that she had at the time were expelled by an external influence, i.e. Sunset.
Resolutions:
…. > The magic from the elements returned to the main 6, and that from Equestria that Sunset used was released freely into the new world. After passing through Twilight, who at this point should have magic of her own under [2], a bit of that magic was also carried along, and this eventually found its way to the cave, i.e. both caused the leak.
…. > The unregulated magic from Equestria carried and possibly diluted the magic from the elements before reaching the cave, i.e. still both caused the leak. This means that they went between the end of FG and LoE without magic from the elements, though, which isn’t likely.
TL;DR I think Sunset and (CHS) Twilight caused the leak of magic that created the geodes.
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hmmm. and we all know that the portal that is connected to leads right into the castle the tree created.
The castle or Tree of Harmony.
I don’t see how that relates to what I typed earlier though.
and what is the most likely thing in equestria that could have sent them?
They don’t have a purpose yet though. People speculate it’s the EqG-world’s version of the Element or simply just a source of magic they can use for themselves.
you do realize there is a extremely high chance that those geodes CAME from the tree of harmony? a small shard of power for them to use.
The tree has become far beyond its original purpose. it is constantly evolving.
One of the reasons why I rather they bring the Geode idea. An extension of the original Elements without actually replacing them. It allows for extra virtues to be added without diminishing the meaning of the original 6 virtues (which are what allowed Twilight’s ascension).
But if they have to make the -immers some aspect of Elements, I am fond of the idea of the Element of Magic encompassing sub-virtues, like, for instance, empathy and sympathy, and once Twilight learns of them from Sunset and Starlight respectively, she “evolves”, per se, in her alicorn status i.e. just getting her wave more wavey. And preferably more power too.
Of course, Sunset and Starlight are still learning their own virtue, so it’s a learning experience for all three of them, one of which that no doubt everyone will help them with.
This is all wishful headcanon but I think it could still work. But if it’s all too complicated it’s better just not to have a 7th Element.
I don’t think Starlight is an element. She literally subverted TWO generations of ‘elements’. If anything, Starlight is anti-element.
You see that Sunset works really well with the Mane6 while Starlight just doesn’t. She either just hangs around them without giving any meaningful input, or she does something on her own and everyone takes a backseat. There is no synergy between Starlight and the other Element, so having her be the “seventh” is the worst decision ever.
Someone didn’t pay any attention to the episode.
The elemental traits already cover up pretty much every good behaviour, too. Other behaviours are just different ways of saying the 6 elements (Sympathy, Forgiveness, Empathy = Friendship and Kindness) except for love which we already have a princess for. It just feels like bad writing.
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Nah she doesn’t have one in ponyland. I’d wager it’s probably glimmer
If they did have to add Starlight as the seventh Element, Sympathy (Forgiveness is dumb to me), I would only fully accept it if Twilight gets a new more ethereal form after acknowledging Starlight’s new Element.
Granted that, who would inherit the element in Equestria? She has her own magical geode in CHS, after all.
@Background Pony #0508
But we haven’t seen a flashback of him… yet :p
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