@Background Pony #729E  
This

Soarin’ is just the best. Caring, trustworthy. If all guys were like him I’d probably be getting gangbanged on the daily and fucking all my boyfriend’s friends (with his enthusiastic permission >:)

Any day now… any day now… Lyra gets spitroasted.

@marinus18  
There’s little point, the rest just your interpretation of events. There is no right or wrong to it. My original point was that in polite society, TL committed several crimes. You can write that off if you wish, I’m just coming back my ongoing point, dudebro is not innocent here. It doesn’t excuse lyra, but it’s a thing.

@Background Pony #7C42  
Fair enough, it is a possibility. You still haven’t talked about the other things I mentioned.

@marinus18  
There are times when couples just straight up fuck. Romance is nice and all, but occasionally you’re both just horny and scurry off to some bushes and hope no creeps follow you.

@Background Pony #7C42  
There wouldn’t be only hornyness going on but also some intimacy or indication of feelings. Though you are right and assuming they were lovers was a possible conclusion. Judging from their faces though it’s not the most likely one.

“From the horny way she was sucking him off I concluded they weren’t lovers so I assumed she must have been a prostitute instead.”@marinus18  
Because there is no way lovers would get horny, right?

@Background Pony #7C42  

 
Or; “then I asked where she lived and they told me.” (You don’t know which is the truth, if he followed her or just asked where she lived.)  

 
“From the horny and non-romantic way she was sucking him off I concluded they weren’t lovers so I assumed she must have been a prostitute instead. I made my intentions very clear to her which caused her to hesitate for a moment. I mentioned I was willing to pay her if I could receive the same treatment. After a just few seconds of thought she invited me in. After I showed her how much I was willing to pay she completely fell into a slutty character.”  

 
That is simply false as Soarin didn’t say that. He didn’t object to what Thunderlane was doing. He just felt he was going a little too quickly.  

 
More accurate is: “I assured him I knew what I was doing and he made no further objections.”  

 
“When she was good and stoked I mounted her.”

@marinus18  
Ask yourself if the following would get you pulled into the police station for questioning and possibly charged with a few crimes:
 
“So, I was walking through the park when I heard something in the bushes. I poked my head inside and there was this lady giving a handjob to another guy. Now, I was curious, so I watched them until they finished, then I followed the lady home and asked her if she could do the same for me, of course bringing money along just in case she was a whore and this wasn’t some young couple I had intruded on. She seemed upset, but agreed, then proceeded to give me the best blowjob of my life. So then I asked her if she would mind coming along to the gym I like to work out at so we could have sex in the shower. I invited a buddy along then whipped her hotpants down when she started blowing him and my buddy was like hey, have some fucking manners! I was kinda irritated, but I took the point and started eating her out first, you know, gotta get em warmed up, even if they are a whore. Then I mounted her.”

@larrykitty  
I do think Lyra’s sudden slutty demeanor comes quite out of nowhere. She never showed this before.

@larrykitty  
I just don’t see his actions as unjust and I feel even if he does push her somewhat that does not absolve Lyra of responsibility.

@Naughtypony2010  
Not gonna harp on the guy because he wants to protect Thunderlane. I mean I ship that lug with Twilight and make him to be a loveable dofus that can kick ass as a wonderbolt (Love the fact he is one in cannon now btw). Just saying that this artist has a different view on how this comic wants to go with the characters he has chosen.

@larrykitty  
funny enough almost everyone calls thunder a (small) douche while marinus keeps protecting and putting fictional action to reality and reasonable

@marinus18
 
@Background Pony #7C42
 
@Daneasaur
 
Not sure what to say about this discussion on a pony’s physiological mindset for this comic. I just see it as well drawn porn. Yeah Thunderlane is being a bit of a douch but Lyra seems to be into it. Especially with the kindhearted Soarin’ now in the mix. I say let the sex happen and be happy that this dude is having fun drawing it for us.

@Background Pony #7C42  
He likely just asked Caramel.
 
indeed, Caramel was likely a friend and so she did it for free.  
Peeping and stalking is really stretching it. If you see someone do a good job and you think “that looks good, I want to try that” then that isn’t stalking.
 
But that’s all he did, he helped her get into the mess. It’s still her choices.

@marinus18  
Peeping is peeping regardless, and I somehow doubt thunderlane knew Lyra personally or that conversation would have gone differently. So yes, he stalked her on her way home. And the money matters because nowhere in that image with caramel did we see money exchanged, he just assumed she was a whore and would expect payment.
 
I am not saying in any of this that lyra made the right choices, but dudebro made some really bad ones too. Without his peeping and stalking, lyra would happily be occasionally giving handies to somepony she trusts. TL helped get her into this mess. It wasn’t entirely her.

@Background Pony #7C42  
That’s really stretching it. Peeping on something that happens in a public park is not really peeping. Peeping into someone’s property is peeping. Not only that but it’s likely not really a secret where Lyra lives so stalking is also a real stretch. He didn’t really stalk her, he just walked up to her and asked. What does asking her before he shows the money matter? If she had asked “how much” he would have gladly shown her so I don’t see why that order matters.

@marinus18  
And if he’d been peeping through a window? Peeping is peeping. Plus he stalked her to her home, and asked without seeing money if she’d take it for a sex act. Face it, he’s clueless but not blameless.

@Background Pony #7C42  
Public park is public park.

Public park, but hidden, and he was peeping where he wasn’t wanted. Your argument only holds up if she made no attempt to have privacy.

@Daneasaur  
Yeah, sorry but it really appeared that way to me.
 
@Background Pony #7C42  
If she does it in a public park I can only blame Lyra for it getting out.

@Background Pony #7C42  
I mentioned earlier that both are no saints, but TL is clearly pushing it. In my stressing to point out TL’s actions and why I/others weren’t fond of said actions, I had to overly point it out to the people who were ignorant of it and some took that as a sign that I was outright demonizing TL while claiming lyra was completely without fault, which wasn’t the case.

@marinus18  
Well, he did, whether he knew it or not. Laying the blame entirely on Lyra when TL created this situation by peeping in some bushes in which he clearly wasn’t invited, propositioning a mare he didn’t know, and then inviting a friend along, it just doesn’t work. TL is, at least in part, to blame as well.

@Daneasaur  
Well you sort of did. Saying that Thunderlane forced and manipulated her, that sounds a lot like it’s putting blame off of her.
 
I wouldn’t quite go that far. She is enjoying it but she’s not throwing away her entire dignity just yet.