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No man exclude Italy. We actually have the minimum wage. It is not a law but is written inside the work collective agreements that are MANDATORY for law for every work categories.  
So definitively we have the minimum wage, period. And yes we have universal healthcare which is one of the best in the world actually.  
Also Germany has minimum wage since 2014 with the Minimum Wage Act, also known as Mindestlohngesetz.  
And the other countries left are known to be social democracies paradises. So your point is quite not valid.
 
@KingKek42  
nice amerocentric view man. I’m not slave of anyone.
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Reminder that the US supports an absolute monarchy that beats and tortures everyone that disagrees with it and wishes for simple democratic reforms and another nearby nation that holds its population in a state of apartheid, but it’s OK because they’re free market so we’ll sell weapons to them anyways.
 
 
@FrecklesFanatic
 
I wasn’t going to respond to this initially when I got home because the night went on without any further discourse, but since I’m here:
 
Yes, that’s the point. Thank you for the dismissive attitude.
 
I know it’s not clearly evident for self-proclaimed “”“centrists””” but the left is more sectarian than the anyone as or more right of center could actually imagine. Venezuela may call itself “socialist” but it’s operating under a re-manufactured socialism that’s about as socialist as the Republic of Hawaii was in its time an actual Republic in the true-blood anglo definition (another despotic regime of questionable merit that the US didn’t mind existing because it was pro-US and was eventually annexed anyways).
 
But you know, this doesn’t really matter anyways since clearly the system failed. Never mind previously mentioned middle-eastern dictatorial monarchy decided to use its own state-owned oil company to flood the global oil supply to crash the economy of rival producers like Venezuela and Iran, and that the country isn’t getting any import of food supplies from outsider exporters.
 
But you know, it’s not like it’s outside forces that crash a country that puts its cards into a single economic driver. It must clearly be the system of choice behind it.
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Sky funeral
@FrecklesFanatic
 
We export grain too, so why are so many of our citizens on food assistance programs if the supply of food stuffs is so high it’s literally rotting in silos as we speak? We got them on a shoestring, and the free market is ultimately indifferent.
 
But again, here too is when you’re only focusing in on the one model of the left as if it’s representative. You’re acting like a tankie in the mirror.
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@AaronMk
 
Thats a lot of ifs
 
The web site Annual Causes of Death in the United States lists causes down to 7,000 per year (from HIV) but does not have a category for Starvation, so the total must be fewer than 7,000.  
According to World Life Expectancy, a research group which uses sources such as WHO, World Bank, UNESCO, CIA the total number of men and women who have dead from malnutrition in 2014 is 3,933.
 
So, yeah, the US is doing a way better job of feeding people then the Soviet union, since there arent literally millions starving.
 
Also the SU was EXPORTING Grain during the holdomor, so the starvation of many could have been prevented but was taken as acceptable loss.
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Sky funeral
@FrecklesFanatic
 
On principle, I’m not a Stalinist. But even just reading into the issues of Ukraine at the time the issue wasn’t entirely poor Stalinist management skills and more to do with the land-owner peasant class - the kulaks - destroying their live-stock and food supplies en’masse to spite the authorities.
 
But during the early years of the USSR there was internal conflict over how to treat them. In 1929 and prior the official stance was to just leave them alone and let them. But Stalin wanted them destroyed and had the position reversed in the thirties to enact forced liquidation.
 
But it goes without saying that Leftist ideology is a broader range of ideas than just, “lol Soviet Union”. I’ll agree the USSR was shit and failed to play its hand. The Soviets also actively suppressed any alternative socialist movements to ensure their the only ones that could speak for the left, and thus in the end have become the meme-face of the left in bad or good ways.
 
Turning to alternatives, agricultural production under Revolutionary Catalonia improved by at least 50% (though I have heard remarks that productive capabilities in Anarchist-Spain even doubled) during the Spanish Civil War. And the Anarchist methodology was generally a lot softer than the Soviet Union’s heavy-handed methodology. Individuals who simply didn’t want to play along with community farms were let alone and given a farm for their own to manage and use as they felt. Industrial production was initially stymied because high-class specialists fled the fighting so the industrial labor Unions part of the revolutionary movement had to figure it out as they went along.
 
But because Stalin - like his successors - were fussy pieces of shit, they had to extinguish the Anarchist experiment in Spain and worked up the sectarian differences among the Republican-left and got the Republicans to rip themselves apart in the hunt for Trotskites; including the CNT-FAI.
 
But since we’re thinking on the alternative socialist models, the economy of Yugoslavia in so far as I have read was more functional than the Soviet economy, and worked at a much more mixed level as heavy-handed Soviet autocracy. Yugoslavia came out from the Second World War in a lot more difficult situation than the Soviets, since nearly the entire country was devastated from war and its GDP was set to double every twenty years. Apart from facets that were centrally planned in the Yugoslav economic mission, the rest of the economy relied much more on worker’s self management; meaning the government never had a hand in running them and there were no private owners.
 
So now having covered the Soviets, let us take a look at Neoliberalism.
 
While the rate of individuals reporting food insecurity is falling, some 6.3 million house holds in the US face food insecurity issues , and if it weren’t for present government assistance programs this would mean that the US would be sitting on a food shortage equal to that of the Holdomor (If we assume each of those 6.3 million households has at least or on average one grown man, woman, and a child, this is 18.9 million affected by hunger compared to the Holdomor’s 16 million). This is also not considering that the definition of “hunger” was struck from tracking statistical tracking, removing any reports of households or individuals reporting going a period of time without food and feeling the pain from it.
 
Similarly, over 8 million are too poor to eat in the UK.
 
This comes at a time when farmers in the US are facing surplus of grain that is threatening to overflow the silos.
 
The notion that we’re effectively feeding anyone any better than the Soviets is a joke.