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the logic of magic mirror, the most mature character needs lessons from… starlight… its like a pilot of nascar needs lessons from a mario kart player…

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cloudkicker108
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@Background Pony #88E2  
Not really. Sunset might be further along in reformation than Starlight in certain regards, but that hardly means she has nothing left to learn. And Hasbro is profiting off FiM whether or not Starlight is present. If you haven’t noticed, there are very few toys and merchandise (the main source of income for the franchise) featuring Starlight as compared to the many the mane six have.
Background Pony #1A3B
It’s true. Starlight Glimmer is Hasbro’s attempt to make money off of MLP:FIM before it gets cancelled. And once FIM dies, Hasbro will turn EQG into proper series with Sunset Shimmer as protagonist.
Background Pony #79DD
I’m actually OK with this. It’s nice to see Sunset learn from someone else for once. Either way, just because someone is far less successful in their life than another person, doesn’t mean that they can’t offer good advice.
Alexlayer
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@Ball Joy  
As much as I’d be inclined to agree with you (though the use of “objectively” is rather provocative), I fear all you’re about to accomplish here is to stir up some drama.
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@orbsah  
No it shouldn’t. It would just be one of those abused tags where everyone has their own interpretation of the tag or they just attach it to anything where the OP has an opinion they don’t like.
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@Alexlayer  
…I probably shouldn’t try to respond right now; not because of anything you did or wrote, it’s all on me. On some level, I know that, yes, this is largely a matter of personal opinion and taste; moreover, I’ve known for years now that my personal tastes don’t align with the majority of the fandom, and this difference of opinion fits right in with that knowledge. So I’d best just stop here, because I really don’t wanna become like EyeGuy.
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@Alexlayer  
Actually, if not for her friends, the crystal ponies would’ve likely fallen into mass panic way before Twilight and Spike came even close to finding the Crystal Heart. They wouldn’t have all been in one spot so Cadance could rally them and destroy Sombra. So, that’s one where her friends played an important role. And with Twilight’s Kingdom, I think the point was that all the magical power Twilight had at the time didn’t mean squat. It was choosing her friends over power and working together with them that saved the day; the opposite choice of Tirek’s, who went for power over friends.
 
In general though, I agree with your outline. And yes, it’s exacerbated with Starlight Glimmer.
 
Starlight was the first to get a solo mission from the Cutie Map, for example. That’s important especially since map missions are usually structured around the two ponies called working in tandem to fix the problem. They play off of each other, more often than not proving why they are friends to begin with. That didn’t happen with Starlight.
 
There are times where I wonder if Starlight is friends with the Elements at all. She seems to get along better with other ponies.
 
Incidentally, me, I wasn’t even that upset that Starlight got pushed into the heroine role in the season six finale. It was how little effort went into explaining how everypony else had been taken out first. It’s like what the Nostalgia Critic said about the Batman V Superman film: If the situation feels too forced, it distracts from the rest because you’re constantly questioning why it’s happening.
 
That’s just me, however.
Alexlayer
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@Alexlayer
I didn’t understand the laser-like focus on season premieres/finales back when people used those to complain about Twilight being the only character that mattered, and I especially don’t understand it now, when we’ve had “game-changing” moments like the CMC getting their cutie marks and Rainbow Dash becoming a Wonderbolt happen during the middle of the season.
 
Well, whether you like it or not, there is a different level of importance between the types of episode you’ve listed. “Crusaders of the Lost Mark”, “Newbie Dash” and “Canterlot Boutique” are important episodes, no doubt, but at the end of the day, they’re only important to their protagonist characters themselves and, with the exception of “Crusaders of the Lost Mark” (which, I should mention, was an extra special episode as it aired on the show’s very fifth anniversary), none of them have had significant consequences for any other characters.
 
When it comes to Season Premieres and Finales, these often involve world threatening levels, or at least way bigger scales, and for a while there, they’ve been focused very strongly on Twilight, with the ReMane 5 often just being there to serve as comic relief or to pretend the show hadn’t forgotten about them.
 
In “The Crystal Empire”, if Twilight didn’t accomplish the goal set to on her (and I know the show tries to pretend it’s Spike who saved the day, but looking back on it, the sad true is that Spike wasn’t about to do anything himself until Twilight told him, so ultimately it was her decision that mattered), King Sombra would have taken over the Crystal Empire once more, and likely killed all of the protagonists.
 
In “Princess Twilight Sparkle”, the ReMane 5 are shown downright unable to solve the day unless they’ve got Twilight by their side, and if she hadn’t done her part, the dark vines might have taken over Equestria.
 
In “Twilight’s Kingdom”, much like the former, the focus is placed almost exclusively on Twilight, and it’s once again about facing a threat that, should Twilight not success, would destroy all of Equestria.
 
And while “The Cutie Map” had been a step in the right direction by having Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy being key to saving the day, not to mention the collaboration of minor characters, “The Cutie Re-Mark” goes back to having Twilight being the savior of everything, with Spike as her sidekick and the ReMane 5 not even being really involved in the story, just alternative versions of themselves meeting with Twilight here and there, but never even helping her in any significant way other than offer exposition.
 
The ReMane 5 do get their very special episodes here and there, but they’re never of the scale that these Twilight-centric episodes, all of them either Premieres or Finales, reach. The overall narrative all but states that the ReMane 5 just aren’t as important as Twilight Sparkle is. They never get to be the start in a “saving the entire world” storyline, not since Season 1, at least, with episodes like “Dragonshy”, which at least presented similar feats, even if not the same in scale. So if you ask me, the fact that this clear segregation rose some complaints seems perfectly reasonable to me.
 
Then comes Starlight joining the main cast, and the dynamics do change, but not how most, if anyone at all, would have liked. Twilight’s been made less prevalent by having her unable to save the day (“The Crystalling”), or by having her share the same fate of uselessness as her friends (“To Where and Back Again”), but this never helped restore the relevance we were once led to believe the ReMane 5 were meant to have. They’re still never given a chance to save the day. Instead, it’s Starlight who’s been key to saving the day twice already, while the five characters who have grown on the fandom for far longer and with far greater appeal than her, are rendered just as, if not even more useless than before when the stakes are high.
 
So yeah, when the majority of the Premieres and Finales have such high stakes that they involve the fate of everyone, you can bet that they’re one step above your traditional “special” episode. And of said Premieres and Finales, Starlight has been central in the last five of them. So… you can probably see already why people might be ticked off if she steals the spotlight like that again.
 
And if not I don’t think I can help you further.
cloudkicker108
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@Josh103  
Sure, there are fictional characters people take a disliking too. But are they really hated so much that that they overshadow everything else? And do they really single-handedly ruin the entire experience that comes from watching the show they’re in?
Background Pony #948A
@Alexlayer  
I didn’t understand the laser-like focus on season premieres/finales back when people used those to complain about Twilight being the only character that mattered, and I especially don’t understand it now, when we’ve had “game-changing” moments like the CMC getting their cutie marks and Rainbow Dash becoming a Wonderbolt happen during the middle of the season.
 
@PonyPon  
The main theme for this season has been family; GlimGlam’s been involved in two of the six episodes with that theme so far. Doesn’t really seem to be revolving around her this season.