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Edit: Alright, hopefully THIS is a small enough, cropped piece of the comic for it to not be deletable so I can do a comparison pic :p

Straight 1:1 copy of Equestria prevails armor for the mane six from way back years ago, down to the headgear.
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@TarivGy

All of the armor pieces are pretty simple and obvious in design. Fitted around the head/body, applied protection where it makes sense and is necessary in battle. Neither of the two designs are in any way innovative or unique.
The mad armada of insane, irrational and short-fused people that Jay Fosgitt haters are also ignores that there are a couple differences between the designs still, because it’s convenient to ignore them.
It’s just bias.
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Okay, maybe that would make sense. Sure, Rainbow’s helmet is similar to one she’s worn before and AJ has her hat. However, it’s infeasible that Fosgitt managed to independently design the exact same style of headwear for the rest of the Mane 6.

Let’s assume that, somehow, magically, there’s some possible way that there’s a 50% (in reality those odds are lower) chance that he’d design the headwear of each of the 4 remaining ponies in the same way.
That means that there’s a 6.25% chance that Fosgitt managed to accidentally copy all of their headwear. In reality I’d wager those odds are less than 1%.
Fosgitt is an art thief and poor artist.
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Are people still doing this? After all this time? Not that it’s anything new, but this is more proof that there are more than enough people who really need to learn to understand that such a simple and obvious design (Element of Harmony at the chest just like with the actual Elements of Harmony, Rainbow Dash wearing a helmet that looks similar to the one she wore during the Hearth’s Warming Eve play we saw in Season 2, ect.) can be thought up by two different artists independently.
The design by Equestria-Prevails isn’t unique enough for it that another artist can’t get the same vision of such armor pieces.
And with Jay Fosgitt, who so many hate for no good reason other than their own ego, being the artist who drew this armor, it is obvious where the accusations stem from anyway….. It’s all just a skewed, biased view of him and a convenient excuse to hate on him.
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Fosgitt would have been better off as a fanartist. He’d have been allowed to cite his source for these designs, and just generally allowed to deviate from canon the way he does
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You asked nicely and said "please", but I’m afraid I have to turn you down still. The Jay Fosgitt hate is entirely rooted in a bunch of people not liking his artstyle and being unable to accept that not everything has to meet their taste. Everything else are petty scapegoat excuses, because the "I don’t like thing!" complaint made them lose credibility quickly.
So, again, I’m afraid I cannot fulfill your request of not counterbalancing entirely emotional-induced criticism with thougthful logic.
I hope your day will be nice anyway.
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IDW has one of the best in the business (Andy Price) working for them. I very much doubt it’s a matter of artists looking down as much as it’s IDW understands how to pick the right artist and writers for the job. Not everyone in comics does cartoonish art well.
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Putting that comment I just wrote here too, cause it’s fitting:



What details?
The pieces on the hooves look exactly like what we’ve seen from any royal guard ever so far. For the head pieces, all of them are of very simple and obvious shape considering who’s wearing them (and I specifically go into what the two designs have in common here):

Rarity and Twilight have head pieces that are tailored around their horns, because that’s more suitable for alicorn/unicorns than a classical helmet. Additionally, Rarity’s head piece is resembling a crown, adorned by a fitting jewel, referring to her regal attitude.
Applejack’s just wearing her hat instead of a head piece, because that hat is important to her so much that she always wears it. It’s also the big trademark thing in her appearance, so obviously the artists let that stay there.
Rainbow Dash is wearing a helmet of the style that the pegasi of Pegasopolis wore. That design choice is so obvious, I don’t even have to explain.
Fluttershy….. That’s literally just a square and a few curved lines. Not commenting on that. I could draw Fluttershy a simple headpiece like this and I’m not a good artist.
The only two headpieces here that I can’t connect to the race and body features of the pony wearing it and where I can’t see from where the inspiration came are really the one of Fluttershy and Pinkie’s head piece, but this is a predicament that apparently both Equestria-Prevails and Jay Fosgitt suffered from and had to solve, so, much as with the obvious rest of the armor designs, it isn’t surprising that both of them came to the same conclusions.

Then the chest pieces….. There isn’t much to say here. They resemble the artifacts they wore with the Elements of Harmony in them, they even HAVE the Elements of Harmony in them, and from there, they are expanded on their backs for protection, like it is typical for horse armors. Plus wings on Twilight’s armor, which is not even on Equestria-Prevails’ design in the first place.
Typical horse armors, the Elements of Harmony and wings for Twilight’s armor to indicate her as the leader and perhaps symbolically refer to her ascension, it’s a no-brainer where both artists got the inspiration for that from.

Finally, to the "minute details" you talk about….. Which brings me back to my initial question, really. What details?
Equestria-Prevails’ design has a few curls and spirals and curves in them….. As does Jay Fosgitt’s design, except for the fact his curls are only vaguely resembling the ones in Equestria-Prevails’ design and are much more simplistic.
Curls and spirals, how very original, these are truly intricate details no other artist can come up with, but can only copy! Don’t pull out your wallet, the sarcasm is for free.

With armor designs that simple and based on or inspired by such obvious, basic things as the race, body features, background and personality of each of the Mane Six, it comes as no surprise that two individual artists can get the same ideas independently.
If Equestria-Prevails’ design would be something highly creative, with details one who wants to draw armor for the Mane Six would not come up with almost instantly, but only after a long time of experimenting with the design, and if this design would get copied by another artist, then there would be evidence that is impossible to refute.
But with a design that easy, obvious and simple? No one will copy it and no artist has to.
Don’t get me wrong, Equestria-Prevails’ design looks great, but it’s not creative or original enough that another artist can’t get the same design ideas. In fact, due to its simplicity and blatancy, it’s very likely that another artist ends up with the same design at some point.
It’s just because it’s Jay Fosgitt who happened to be that artist that so many went into a riot about it and accused him of stealing fan designs and hated on him even more.
The hatred against Jay Fosgitt goes back to the time where he started to draw for the official comics and that hatred has pent up so much over the years, that any coincidence is good enough of an excuse to justify that hatred.
Because of that alone, it’s hardly valid if someone says that Jay Fosgitt copied this armor design.
His haters see what they want to see.
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Sadly, its very hard for IDW to get good workers on the comic; apparently most comic book writers and artists don’t want to have anything to do with pony, viewing it as beneath them.
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Even the original artist has no problems with this.
But yeah i know in our fandom, nothing goes without drama.
Keep me entertained SJW XD
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