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All four of them at once (the first four revealed, at the time of this upload), for easy reference.

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Background Pony #E85F
@Daneasaur  
“I don’t like you’re opinion because its well thought out and my post is old!! Go away!!!”  
and you’re the one mocking children?  
Dude, get a life with your edgy self.
Background Pony #F70C
@vevans0009
Zootopia has so many things wrong with it due to the script change that i could make a master blog out of it, but I’ll step aside on that since it’s off topic and simply say that yes, the kids will watch the “cute fwuffy fox and wabbit” while I strain to keep my sanity at wanting to harm the two main characters who don’t change by the end of the film because of how infuriating they are.
 
No, Daneasaur. Just no. People like Zootopia because of the clever, nuanced, and thought-provoking writing, immersive worldbuilding, and relatable characters. Those are perfectly logical reasons to like a movie. Frankly,top treating everyone else like idiots for not sharing your unpopular opinions.
 
Speaking of which, do you want to know why your opinion on Zootopia is so unpopular? It’s because your supposed “criticisms” of the film make no sense. For example, you obsessively whine about the scrapping of the whole tame collars subplot as if it were some sort of oppressed masterpiece, despite the writers and directors themselves coming out and saying that the later rewrite was for the better, as it made the conflict more believable.
 
You claim that Judy Hopps’ character has no redeeming value whatsoever, even though her personality and motivations were fully fleshed out, showing us both her strengths and weaknesses. She wants to prove herself as a capable protector of the law, yet stumbles of her own shortsighted judgements and decisions. This isn’t the result of faulty writing, it’s the perfect example of a believably flawed, yet relatable character. And most importantly, she matures as the movie goes an and owns up to her mistakes. She is anything but the bland feminist-panderinv Mary-Sue you accuse her of being, and you’ve actually got the aforementioned rewrite to thank for that in part, as Judy wasn’t originally planned to have that much character development devoted to her.
 
And yes, the same applies to Nick Wilde. As “infuriating” as you claim his personality is, it actually reveals a lot about his character. He sees the world around him as being cold and judgemental, so he believes it’s only fair for him to return the favor. Nick had a lonely childhood, growing up in a poor family and being bullied at a young age. In an attempt to hide any signs vulnerability, he tries to hide behind a harsh, condescending persona in order to make it seem as if “they never get to him”. That kind of clever subtlety would never have been possible had the writers stuck to him repeatedly getting electrocuted by a shock collar for cheap laughs.
 
I could go on and on, but I’d rather keep it short and sweet, since I don’t want to derail this thread. This is a My Little Pony image board, after all.
CMC Scootaloo
Duck - Common sense 'n stuff
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
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Scootaloo Fanclub Member
@Daneasaur
 
“Where is this “pirate” talk coming from? The fact that a character has the name “captain”? That one of the characters seems to be a Seapony?”
 
“Last time I had a conversation this mind boggling was when a backgroundpony tried to argue that equestria games was a good episode and that spike was a well respected character of the cast and not a comical prop.”
 
I think you should have stop having conversations entirely. They don’t seem to be good for your mind.
Daneasaur
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
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@vevans0009  
Inability to understand =/= nonsensical answer.
 
 
@CMC Scootaloo  
Where is this “pirate” talk coming from? The fact that a character has the name “captain”? That one of the characters seems to be a Seapony?
 
And yet when I mention how the pr is being handled, I’M the one who’s jumping to conclusions?
 
Last time I had a conversation this mind boggling was when a backgroundpony tried to argue that equestria games was a good episode and that spike was a well respected character of the cast and not a comical prop.
 
That was before gauntlet of fire, btw.
CMC Scootaloo
Duck - Common sense 'n stuff
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Artist -

Scootaloo Fanclub Member
@Daneasaur
 
The size really doesn’t matter. The pictures are meant to introduce the characters and to introduce who’s voicing them. You can’t make predictions about what that means for their roles in the movie based on a design choice like that on a promo picture.  
And even if you would be right, and those actors were hired as VAs with the ulterior motive of getting the movie more attention that way by having big names in it, that still doesn’t mean that each of these characters will have a big role in them and that none of them are side characters.  
We can see that Captain Celaeno is a pirate and for all we know, she could be bringing the Mane Six to the sea pony kingdom with her ship and, while on the water, tell them a little where she comes from, some bits about her race’s culture and maybe even why she became a pirate and create worldbuilding that way, then, once they have arrived at the sea pony kingdom, be all like “Okay, I brought you here, the rest is up to you. I need to continue search for that treasure now, kkthxbye!” and then leave them again, for her to not be seen in the movie again.  
And that would be perfectly fine. She would do her job for the movie then, bring the Mane Six to where they need to be and add some intriguing worldbuilding to the movie.  
That would already be enough for her to be an interesting character who adds to the movie. We don’t need to hear her whole life story or her blasting up the Storm King with her ship’s cannons for that, or anything.  
How much a character adds to a movie does not depend on screentime, it depends on how well they do in their roles and the scenes they appear in.  
And that means they need to have a good voice actor too. A character having only small amounts of screentime does not create an excuse to hire a mediocre voice actor and say something like “What? She has only two lines, we can hire an amateur who sounds like shit for that!”.  
That would be highly unprofessional. That’s not how making a good movie works and not how good movies are made.  
That’s something you should understand, unless you want to continue to doomtalk this movie for the heck of it, which I suspect to be your intention here more with every new comment I see from you.
 
 
@vevans0009
 
Or like this. TL;DR version of my answer.^^
Daneasaur
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)

@CMC Scootaloo  
It has EVERYTHING to do with the PR team. The fact that you can’t understand what I have said over several heavily details posts baffles me. I’ll try to get as simple as possible.
 
Look at the above picture, LOOK AT THEM, what is the bigger picture; the character or the VA?
 
THE VA.
 
That is obvious emphasis on the people doing the roles, of which a few people have said are celebrities (though that’s debatable). That means the above is not promoting the characters, but the VA’s.
 
Do you see how that works?
CMC Scootaloo
Duck - Common sense 'n stuff
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Artist -

Scootaloo Fanclub Member
@Daneasaur
 
PR has nothing to do with the movie’s quality and new characters, regardless how big or important their roles are, deserve excellent VAs, even if they have only two lines in the whole movie, and they need to get announced and presented as part of advertising the movie.  
You’re reading into this and falsely believe that a reveal automatically means the characters have big and important roles and that is not the PR team’s fault.
Daneasaur
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)

@vevans0009  
Zootopia has so many things wrong with it due to the script change that i could make a master blog out of it, but I’ll step aside on that since it’s off topic and simply say that yes, the kids will watch the “cute fwuffy fox and wabbit” while I strain to keep my sanity at wanting to harm the two main characters who don’t change by the end of the film because of how infuriating they are.
 
 
@CMC Scootaloo  
You structured that first sentence weird. you calling the movie or the kids bad?
 
And yes, SOME kids have the drive to watch more in depth movies, but not as many as the ones who want to watch the insanely repetitive shows that do the same thing over and over again.
 
I try to watch more entertaining and “stimulating” things from time to time, as opposed to the same 6 episodes of blues clues or dora the explorer, I’ve tried to get them to try things that don’t do the same thing over and over and over again such as Dinosaur train, Digby Dragon, and yes, even MLP, but 90% of the time, because it’s not chanting the same thing over and over and over again every 3 minutes, they are not paying attention to it.
 
Regardless
 
The argument here is that you’re trying to tell me “this will be a good movie no matter what”, and I’m saying “here are some BIG flaws about the PR right now, don’t get your hopes up.”
CMC Scootaloo
Duck - Common sense 'n stuff
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Artist -

Scootaloo Fanclub Member
@Daneasaur
 
At this point, I’m thinking you’re just stereotyping children and that the movies you watched together with children you were babysitting were just so bad. Naming the Winnie the Pooh movie strengthens that notion.  
Children are capable of more than you think. If the plot is exciting and the characters intriguing, they are on edge like adults are and sit through it in one go.
vevans0009

@Daneasaur  
Wow, okay. XD Saying that Zootopia is not good is like saying that Bayformers is up there with the likes of Godfather or even Star Wars.
 
Also, exactly how often do go to movies and see kids watch them? Not much considering I sat through many films where parents took their kids and they never once lose attention to what was on screen. Whether it was animated or live-action, they were still glued to it.
Daneasaur
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)

@vevans0009  
We don’t talk about zootopia. It missed out on being a good movie when the script changed to make it for said little kids.
 
 
@CMC Scootaloo  
1: A movie will have to have a bunch of slapstick or nonsense to keep a kid entertained at length. Yes, this has higher animation budget, but it doesn’t mean anything other than the animation being better looking. And look at that, more funds going into the animation means less funds for runtime, which is the main killer here, so between the slapstick to keep the kids from screaming, where is the room for the “mature” narrative you’re implying?
 
2: I work as a babysitter. It’s an official job I have, so I think I know a thing or two when it comes to the attention span of a kid. You make the movie have a plot that the parents enjoy but is too dark or complicated like The Good Dinosaur or Rio, and kids have lost interest before 30 min are up. If the kid is smitten with a specific character/franchise, well then they will sit through all of it… however, what works as an episode length pocket doesn’t always work when transitioned to a movie length. IE:Winnie the pooh episodes vs the recent winnie the pooh movie. I’ve seen kids sit and marathon 8+ episodes in a row, but set the movie in motion and they are gone in 20 min, because a movie is not broken up.
 
I have no faith that this will be over 90 min for these reasons, unless it is marketed directly AT the adults with the risk of alienating the “target audience”.
CMC Scootaloo
Duck - Common sense 'n stuff
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Artist -

Scootaloo Fanclub Member
@vevans0009
 
^THIS. There’s no way a movie of that magnitude is getting restricted to 80 - 90 minutes.  
Letting the fact aside that the movie is, much as the show, getting made for adults as well (cause the show doesn’t have a preferred demography, so the movie won’t have either), I’m also worried about that assumption regarding children’s attention spans. There may be children who have problems sitting through such a long movie, but so do some adults, and there’s nothing indicating a six year old child couldn’t sit through a two hour movie if they like it and adore the characters, just because it’s young.  
Maybe they would need to watch it a few times more often than adults to completely get it (and, you know, that means more cash for Hasbro, so alone for that reason this movie will be very long), I give him that, but no way a child of all people will be all like “Meh, I’m getting bored, I’m out of here!” after just 80 minutes.  
Not to mention the unfortunate, implied assumptions he makes about the mental capability of children…..
 
 
@Daneasaur
 
All that I said above.
vevans0009

@Daneasaur  
Thats EqG. Direct to dvd/blu-ray releases. This is a bigger budget film and much wider theater release. If anything, it will be at least 100 mins compared to other “little kid” films such Lego Batman, Zootopia etc.
Background Pony #3618
@Daneasaur  
This.
 
If there’s one thing that has consistently and predictably held this show back, it’s run time. Having to cram narrative into episodes, into the two-part specials, and especially the hour-long-TV-movie slots of the Equestria Girls films. I have absolutely no illusions that this movie won’t have exactly the same problem.
Daneasaur
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)

@vevans0009  
Something everyone is forgetting is that this film is still made for “little girls” and is going to be kept to the length of attention span of a kid. Sure, you or I would be willing to sit through a two hour movie, but a movie going on for an hour and a half for a kid? I expect this film to be a runtime around 80 minutes.
 
As much as we may love it, this hasn’t had a demography shift and it will continue to be sold to “little kids”.
 
 
@CMC Scootaloo  
Here is the thing; if these characters AREN’T main characters, why bother advertising them? Why hire a celebrity VA for a character who has two lines? Hasbro is the one doing the advertising, it falls to them to get the message across, and right now, it’s saying “All these characters are equal”. Are they all bit parts? Then why hire a celebrity and shell out royalties for such a short role? The flipside is that they must be main characters, but so many? All at once? How long did it take to show the depth of character of the mane 6? You can’t answer that as they are still going. Even the side characters of Gilda, trixie, Luna, and especially Starlight have taken AT LEAST two episodes FOCUSED on them to elaborate on them and make them more than “a bully, a faker, behind-the-times, and evil because lol”. There is no way they can be properly built up in such a short time.