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46 comments posted
redweasel
Duck - "someone befriended them, saved them, coaxed them out of their shell, and showed them that sex is nothing to be afraid of. I’m kind of envious of that rape victim"

Fuzzbutt
@Dogman15

afaik in USA law, fair use can only be declared in a court of law on a case by case basis. there is no objective criteria that defines fair use. "critique or commentary" might still be ruled guilty, depending on the material, and the whims of the jury and judge that day. fair use can never protect you from getting dragged to court, either.

fair use doesn't matter anyway, if the mere threat of legal action makes them take down your stuff. that happens on youtube a lot

actually fair use is often actively banned on derpibooru. if you're making fair use of another artist's work, that's an unauthorized edit, which the admins will ban if the artist asks.
redweasel
Duck - "someone befriended them, saved them, coaxed them out of their shell, and showed them that sex is nothing to be afraid of. I’m kind of envious of that rape victim"

Fuzzbutt
@RandomBlank

I couldn't, honestly. it may be an "edit" but not all edits are created equal. you have to have to be massively arrogant if you require permission before people can put things next to your work that you gave them.
MethidMan
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They're both good in their own ways. Nothing wrong with either of them. I personally like Pencils' version a little more but I also like the cartoony look of Fosgitt's.
Background Pony #BE17
Fosgitt's art in this issue was on the weak side. A tight deadline justifies it only a little.
Dustcan
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@Background Pony #76FC

1) This is technically fanart of official material. If this violates Rule #1 then every other image under the scene interpretation tag, and perhaps like 40% of all other fanart, would be in violation. I think this would fall under Fair Use.

2) Even if this did violate a rule enough to warrant a deletion, good luck finding a mod impartial enough to enforce it.
Background Pony #CEAA
This would count like a violation of the rule #1?

#1 Respect artists and their artwork

All edits of an original image not made by the original artist should be tagged as "edit", and preferably should be made with the artist’s permission.

I bet that pencils don’t ask for the permission to edit this page.

Also this image literally show the scan of a full page that isn’t a preview
Dark
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@redweasel

Sometimes it's just a predetermined schedule, where you get the "technical plot" on a givenday day (X), and you're supossed to have it done in X+N days.

I still think that more often than not, the style on official MLP comics is too simple, but it's also obvious the difference of what you do as a job, that may not relly be your thing; against someone made out of interest on a fandom and with proper inspiration.

Still, more often than not, people speaks out of their arses.
redweasel
Duck - "someone befriended them, saved them, coaxed them out of their shell, and showed them that sex is nothing to be afraid of. I’m kind of envious of that rape victim"

Fuzzbutt
@snow360

considering that the mlp comic has multiple artists, the pace shouldn't be all that grueling. jay probably made that tweet as an apology, either for procrastinating, or for other, non-comic related shenanigans taking up his time. I highly doubt he got a phone call along the lines of:
jay good to talk to you! I was busy counting my money and swindling orphans when I had this great idea. I should do another pony comic! and by 'me' I mean 'you'. oh, your family misses you? sorry to hear. have the entire issue completed and colored in 6 days or I'll call guido to break your kneecaps. well I gotta bounce. ciao!
snow360
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

I'm a fan of both artists, and its interesting to see the different styles and approach. You cant really compare the two as its really comparing apples and oranges. Jay's style is cartoony with a lot of stretch and minimalism, and Pencils has more realism and detail.

When discussing time…the only way for Pencils to be an artist for a company like IDW, with this amount of detail and style, is if he got a colorist to help. I've met with various different artists working in the industry who handles different areas of a comic. Writer, Layout Artist, Line artist, Colorist, etc. Multiple people are needed if they want to push out a super detailed comic in a short amount of time. The production rate of artwork Pencil pushes out isnt fast enough to do it solo. Yes he can absolutely do it, but is it fast enough for a 22 page comic in 6 days? Not to mention possible re-draws of sections or a whole page, as that happens too. Im not sure as I cant speak for him.

Overall, this does prove that Pencils can produce a specific style and level of detail of a comic. I can easily see him hired to do such work as a line artist. Does that make his less or more than Jay's version? Not at all.
redweasel
Duck - "someone befriended them, saved them, coaxed them out of their shell, and showed them that sex is nothing to be afraid of. I’m kind of envious of that rape victim"

Fuzzbutt
@soundtea
it's triumphant rage! that's a rare emotion! the eyes are slightly squeezed on the bottom from her wide open mouth. integrating the eyes and the nose/mouth is vital for expressions. her shoulder is pulled back from trying to turn around.

compare that with the expression on the bottom left panel of pencil's one. her right eye is drawn over the bridge of her snout, her horn is pointing straight up, not at all forward, and her clenched teeth aren't stretching her cheeks at all.
Background Pony #1F0F
It annoys me to no end that they had to go and waste something like this with STARLIGHT.
Spike growing to fight off monsters is something that falls squarely within his capabilities, if they finally started giving him some attention and made it so he can grow by more positive emotions.

But no. Even though growing/becoming stronger is part of Spike's abilities, they had to make it a spell by Starlight…
redweasel
Duck - "someone befriended them, saved them, coaxed them out of their shell, and showed them that sex is nothing to be afraid of. I’m kind of envious of that rape victim"

Fuzzbutt
huh, neat.

jay is better at expressions, despite his inability to draw chins, and better at "squash and stretch" distortion, making it really look like they're whacking the things.

pencils is better at actually drawing a background, at not forgetting that starlight's hairstyle changed, at anatomy, composition, suggestive placement of tentacles, perspective and foreshortening, and action lines.

it's an interesting comparison, and should show both jay and pencils what they can do to improve their own work.
Background Pony #A980
Damn this whole comment section is nothing but people sucking on Pencil's dick hard.