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@jay156  
the shackles of tyranny
 
Yes, such tyranny, a voluntary-membership economic union that bent so far over backwards to accomodate the British ego that it made a special exception just for them to let them keep their precious £. It sounds exactly like all the Americans who complain about United Nations ~tyranny~, as if the UN is anything in practice other than the overseas policy enforcement arm of the US State Department. If you want to see actual factual tyranny in the UK looks like, it ain’t launching from Brussels across the English Channel, it’s launching from London across the Irish Sea.
 
Do you live in a nation state with a nominal rule of law? Congratulations, someone with more push than you is telling you how to live your life. Welcome to “civilization”. This wasn’t a vote on “independence”, it was a vote to shift the blame, and guess who’s the only ones Brits have to blame now? This whole buggerup got started in the first place because a group of political monkeys went too far in blaming the EU for all their problems and accidentally enough public support, and now the UK doesn’t even have BUT EU REGULATIONS as an excuse anymore.
iamli3
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@Crowley  
we never ad-homed each other though only the other guy did that’s why i said that lol…..
 
but dude get sleep that’s one of the most important things , it’s ok pro brexit ppl aren’t gonna break into your place while you sleep c; , im going to bed now myself but it’s only 9pm for me…
Crowley
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Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Can't we all get along?
@iamli3  
Mod said “you should all probably stop it”.
 
I personally don’t wanna cause a fuss. Of course, it’s about 4.45am here, and I’ve not had any sleep. Not had much sleep since that Brexit mess, to tell you the truth.
 
So long as we keep it civil, I’m sure the mod shouldn’t have to intervene again.  
We both just keep the ad hominems to a minimum, agreed?
Crowley
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Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Can't we all get along?
@iamli3  
Er, we ARE defending ourselves. That’s why we’re holding a second referendum. Cameron’s gone, and now we need to get rid of Farage, Boris and his cronies.
 
Dude. I’m in the UK. I have a fucking front seat to this whole shitstorm.
 
“do you understand what the word “could” means?”  
Yes. I do. I do know exactly what could means. It’s why I didn’t trust them and voted against them. millions upon millions of other voters, however, did not think to question that however. That’s why they voted Leave. In short: “Could” was Farage’s get-out-of-jail-free card.
 
“you can feel betrayed all you want , but you only have yourself to blame for being fooled….”  
I WASN’T FOOLED. 48% OF THE UK WEREN’T FOOLED. ARE YOU EVEN READING MY COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.
 
Other people were fooled. They felt scared because Leave was giving them scare-tactics about immigration and NHS fundings, telling them how awful everything was! That video at the end of your comment? Choosing “Freedom over Fear”!? Bullshit! They absolutely chose fear, just check any video you bloody want that asks them why they voted. “I’m scared of losing the NHS.” “I’m scared of the immigrants”. They were completely fear-monged into that.
 
why aren’t you defending yourself?…  
We are. That’s why we’re trying to get this second referendum off the ground! And yes, we are in touch with out local government - our area’s Remain, fyi. Sadly that isn’t going to matter much when we’re against the forces of London (you know the reason why I’m guessing).
 
“the rest are fake btw as the petition has proven fraud in it”  
70,000 signitures. Out of three - Sorry, FOUR million now. And counting. Lemme run that through a calculator for you… 0.00175%  
OH MY GOD ALMOST ONE THOUSANDTH OF ONE PERCENT IS FAKE SHUT THE WHOLE THING DOWN.
 
Or maybe, and bear with me on this… our government (you know, since you got that news from our BBC network) is just trying to find every reason they can so they don’t have to face a REAL referendum. Yeah no Leave propaganda here folks!
 
“hipster faggot millennials”  
Ad hominem, for starters.
 
Also you forget pretty much half the country voted Remain. That tiny change in percentage doesn’t really make it up for a complete and total withdrawal from the EU. Heck, if it was the other way around, I may have even respected them asking for another. But no, this is different due to the “lies” reveal that happened the next morning, and now we’re leaving the EU with exactly zero of the things we WANTED to get from leaving it.
 
As for the videos, yes - now you know that many of them don’t want to leave anymore. This should call for a 2nd ref. One where people actually know the fucking score this time.
 
“doesn’t even mention anyone , NOT EVEN ONE person who says they regret voting for brexit”  
“BLOODY HELL boy you’re not even reading your own propaganda!!! oh this is just to rich”  
Sigh… allow me to quote some of it.
 
“some of the 17 million voters who had willed Britain’s departure from the EU into being were not so much celebrating Freedom Friday as enduring terrors of self-doubt.”  
“Kam reported on his morning conversations with those who had voted for Brexit. “They’ve kept telling me I placed my vote but I didn’t expect [it] to happen. A lot of people are worrying about it”  
“They’re happy enough at the moment. But there’s this strange tingling in the back of their minds.”
 
There, three quotes regarding the uncertainty. Please don’t accuse me of not looking into my sources, when you clearly don’t check ‘em yourself.
 
“i don’t watch tv , that’s why im not freaking out over this like you are”  
I DON’T WATCH TV EITHER THOUGH. I DON’T WATCH THE TV! And I’m freaking out because I’m literally living in this! Like, these two eyeballs seeing it, and having someone from halfway across the bloody planet telling me it’s not so bad! I don’t think I can convey it any clearer that we’re not in a good position right now!
 
But you know what would really solve this once and for all? That’s right - a second referendum. Why? Because if, after all that, the Leave vote wins again… I’ll concede. I’ll know that it wasn’t the bare-faced lies that snuck a win by. I’ll know that it’s something people genuinely want, instead of them being tricked into it. The poll will no longer be tainted by “protest votes”, (which I know damn well they’re stupid, but unfortunately I have no control over stupid people now, do I?) since the person they were protesting against, Cameron, has stepped down.
 
Yes. if and when that second referendum happens, and it’s Leave… then I’ll be happy. Then I’ll leave it alone. Because I know it would actually be fair that time around.
 
Until then, I can’t take it easy. It feels like my whole country’s just been swindled. This current clusterfuck isn’t “democracy”. It’s not “Freedom”. It’s fraud.
iamli3
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@Crowley  
>Yes it was.
 
can you provide some evidence for your claim then? cause i haven’t seen any
 
>It’s tearing our country apart,
 
……………………**COUGH **https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0EAsc-pVKM.  
im sure the uk will survive a bit of graffiti and haggelling…  
now the countries in those videos , not so much…….
 
>But hey, thanks for proving me more correct :)
 
do you understand what the word “could” means?  
the argument presented in their advert is that if brexit won the uk gov can decide how to spend that money , but under the eu they cannot..  
all advertisement is propaganda , but again this is not a lie…  
you can feel betrayed all you want , but you only have yourself to blame for being fooled….
 
>No it doesn’t.
 
yes it does
 
>THEN who will defend us?
 
why aren’t you defending yourself?…  
tell me , what do you know about your LOCAL government?….
 
>evidence
 
first link  
only 1 out of the 4 ppl interviewed actually said they regretted their vote and wanted to change it , the others were surprised that it happened and were afraid of the intimidation they would get from the ppl around them who were pro remain , funny how i don’t see you crying tears of concern for that lady though….
 
second link  
is the same video as the first , but while im here , might as well point out how hilariously bad the propaganda you’re apparently feeding yourself is for this with a title that says  
“Brexit: More than one million people want to change their vote from Leave to Remain”  
with a header that explains  
“More than three million people have signed a petition for a second referendum”
 
k first , a petition to call for another vote =/= “More than one million people want to change their vote from Leave to Remain” , like holy fuck that’s among THE WORST propaganda , gitgud “independent” , git fucking gud….
 
second , it’s likely the hipster faggot millennials that couldn’t have even been bothered to get off their asses to go vote in that referendum , are the ones who are signing this petition , and the rest are fake btw as the petition has proven fraud in it  
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyF8vd-8uPc
 
third link  
is telling us that there’s a lot of really stupid people , who bought into the propaganda of the remain camp , but THEY WERE EVEN MORE FUCKING STUPID THAN THAT and ended up actually voting for the other side as a “protest vote” because they also didn’t like what the remain represented? and then they regretted doing that?………like….that’s a level of inception of stupid that’s actually difficult to comprehend…..
 
fourth link  
…………..doesn’t even mention anyone , NOT EVEN ONE person who says they regret voting for brexit
 
BLOODY HELL boy you’re not even reading your own propaganda!!! oh this is just to rich….
 
>chances are you’re only seeing what American and Canadian news stations are reporting.
 
i don’t watch tv , that’s why im not freaking out over this like you are , and am in fact celebrating it….
 
let me give you an honest rundown:  
you’re fine brony , and obviously very highly confused , so here let me clarify your confusion and distill your fears….  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpo9qzsfL4
Crowley
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Can't we all get along?
@iamli3  
“nobody ever claimed that brexit would result in mass deportation and stopping of all immigration”  
Yes it was. It was all over the fucking place. I’M IN BRITAIN. I’VE SEEN IT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS FOR WHY THEY WERE VOTING. It’s why that, after the results came in, all the tiny-minded voters immediately thought it was OK to start abusing anyone who wasn’t pure-blooded English. It’s tearing our country apart, and I’ve terrified because some of my friends are seeing it crop up around them. Doubly so if they’re not white/British. :(
 
> Links me to that damn propaganda video  
Yes, that WAS the video the Leave party was showing everyone. The one with more downvotes than upvotes. And people tearing it apart in the comments due to them being lied to. I’ve seen that quite a lot. Saying it COULD be used for those things, then promptly not doing, is just covering their own ass pre-votes so they’re not held accountable when they DON’T spend it on that. But hey, thanks for proving me more correct :)
 
“getting out of the eu means that the uk people have more control over their government now”  
No it doesn’t. It means the Government have more control over the people. Right now, there are E.U. officials looking into the Universal Credit cases (which in short, have evidence of UK-paid staff breaching human rights). When we leave the EU, those charges will be dropped. THEN who will defend us?
 
@jay156  
Aha! That’s the point I’m trying to make here! The UK was the tyranny, with the Tories and Cameron! The EU was holding their greed back, you see! A lot of people voted Leave primarily as a protest-vote (which happens a lot, don’t blame me, they’re idiots) because the wanted to be against Cameron, who has been lying through his teeth for the past six/seven years and pretty much robbing us blind (see Panama Papers). Many wanted to vote Leave just to scare him, and did NOT want to ACTUALLY Leave!
 
Evidence, Evidence, Evidence and Evidence.
 
HOWEVER, the EU kept blocking them from doing too much damage to the public by way of their Human Rights charter in Brussels. Yes, both sides were venomously lying through their teeth (I’m world-weary enough to know what), but if I had the choice between being locked in two different cages with two different rabid wolves… I’d pick the one held back by a strong leash! Now our government can do whatever it wants to us. And they love every second of it :’(
 
Of course, now I’ve learned that neither of you are from UK, so chances are you’re only seeing what American and Canadian news stations are reporting. I’m seeing it with my own two eyes right now, so let me give you an honest rundown: Shit’s fucked, yo. And it will continue to be fucked for many a year. So… Rule Britannia?
Terrans117
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@jay156  
Ayy lmao I am a leftist and I hate the EU. Did you die of cognitive dissonance yet? Like I said, this doesn’t say “screw you” enough to the EU, so I would have gone further.
 
You Americans need to realize that liberal democrat does not really equal leftist.
 
Also “both sides are bad” is just empty rhetoric used to justify a status quo, which is something I’m raising eyebrows since you are pro Brexit like me, albeit for different reasons.
jay156
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@Crowley  
I’m an American. And as such, I’m just happy to see a country shuffle off the shackles of tyranny. Tbh, if Scotland or Ireland follows through with their own referendum to secede from Britain, like they’ve been threatening, I would be behind them. Of course, then they’ll just use their freedom to shackle themselves to another slave master, but it’ll be their choice, as misguided as it may be.
 
And are you really implying that both sides haven’t been lying through their teeth before, during, and after the vote? Seriously? What about the remainers who said a leave vote would mean war with the EU? Whatever either side said, leave most likely means there will be less immigration than remain. It’s just common sense. Especially if Turkey becomes an EU state.
iamli3
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Crowley  
i didn’t see any lying in those clips , you couldn’t hear cause the host was talking over the guest , but the person said “i said that in every single meeting” in reference to what the host has convinced you he lied by omission
 
nobody ever claimed that brexit would result in mass deportation and stopping of all immigration , except for the fear propagandists and the remain camp that bought into those lies of fear
 
as for the nhs , that was also not a lie  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIYq5xMW98I  
the leave campaign said that money COULD be spent on those different things
 
if lots of people made that their their primary reason for voting for brexit then that just shows that the people who were easily propagandized into voting remain can just as easily be propagandized to the other side…..
 
im canadian so i can’t talk to you brit to brit , but i can talk to you human to human , and brony , the primary reason you have asthma (and probably why i have to spit mucus ever minute) is because the power structures of the world have agreed to engage in global climate engineering programs - without your consent obviously - and are poisoning every breath you (and everyone) take with nano-sized aluminum particles on a daily continual basis
 
getting out of the eu means that the uk people have more control over their government now and makes it far more possible for major issues like global climate engineering to be brought to light and stopped , under the control of the eu that would never happen
 
that is the primary reason i am in favor of and celebrating brexit
 
now how’s that for being lied to eh?……  
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
Crowley
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Can't we all get along?
@jay156  
Dude, no matter what your political affiliations are, there’s no way anyone should celebrate being lied to.
 
You know how you voted Leave because you thought it would stop immigrants?  
They lied about it. Immigrants aren’t going anywhere, and if we did deport them, we’ve probably have to welcome 2.2 million UK immigrants who would be coming to us after being deported from the E.U. in retaliation.
 
Oh, and the thing about putting £350 million into the NHS? Also a lie. Pretty sure he’s with the crowd that wants to sell it off. I have asthma, free treatment… for now. Can’t wait to have to pay to breathe, thanks for that!
 
But let’s just talk; from one Brit to another, putting our difference aside, I gotta ask… why did you vote Leave? Why celebrate it? No offense to you, but I just don’t understand how people are happy about being lied to. :/
Terrans117
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@jay156  
You’re still celebrating something political sooooooo…you should have seen the drama coming lol. I personally think you needed to go further with Octavia flipping off the EU being represented by Ms. Harswhinny. That would be kickass.
Pinkamena 314
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>the artist is saying ’i want to celebrate this , who would have a vested interest in doing this also? ah-ha!’
>not ’im going to take this character and use them for support for my political stance’
This is true. That’s all there is to it. I also considered little pip, but I couldn’t very well put him in a sexy swimsuit.
 
Supporting and celebrating are effectively the same thing. You don’t celebrate something you’re not in favor of, after all. I assume you thought I was implying this was a propaganda piece? No, I know the difference between attempting to sway others and just proclaiming your own position loud and proud. Which is fine, except that you’re using a canon character to do it, impressing your thoughts and views onto her, and that’s when it becomes something I don’t want to see.
 
For clarification, by the way, I would feel the same way even if it was a political position I was strongly in favor of; I don’t want to see Applejack with a banner saying “American workers - we can do it!” or something of that nature, either. It feels dirty. That said, it seems that the community has seen fit to allow the mouthpiece tag to cover an image without words, making my whole argument a moot point. Moving on with my life now~