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UltraVaderMan

@Background Pony #4495
"Do not force my hoof, Spike!"

Spike groans from the fight

"The kingdom and the timeline hang in the balance! To defend them, I MUST COMMAND ORDER!"

"I thought it impossible…but Starlight was right, you cannot be trusted!"

"I DO NOT NEED TRUST! I DEMAND OBEDIENCE!" Dark magic flares out of her horn and her eyes turn evil
AC97

@Xonxt

Okay, let's say they dethroned Chrysalis somehow, dealt with the Pony of Shadows without Starlight, possibly no Stygian redemption there (less forgiving Twilight, after all), whatever, then you'd have a world where Starlight and Tirek were yanked right out of Tartarus by Grogar, to be… persuaded into working for him.

And the aforementioned possible lack of Pony of Shadows redemption would possibly be something Grogar could use, too.

Depending on how you'd have the divergence course set up, maybe Cozy Glow would still end up on that team, or not.

Maybe such a change of events would turn out interesting.

Point is though, it's probably not a matter of if this alternate choice would backfire, but when.
Background Pony #ADCA
Congratulations. You've allowed Starlight to collaborate with Lord Tirek. That magical suppression device will only work for so long.
Background Pony #BE48
I can see why this is a bad end. Because by the time Starlight is finally out of Tartarus after 1000 moons(I still don't get why ponies don't just say years), she and Tirek will take over Equestria again. That is why this is a bad end.
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@Crystal Neighybánya
Oh of course. That's where a great judgement comes in — the "they’re very good at "feeling out" the situation. If that always leads them right" part. They'd know this guy isn't coming around, and he'd be in Tartarus forever — or until his death, since he's mortal.
Aurora Glimmer

Wow! Glimmer
@Cirrus Light
Aside from the concerns you brought up, there's also the fact there are some people who can't be reformed or refuse to be reformed. I doubt a man like Hideki Tojo would bother listening to someone lecturing him on the value of human rights and political pluralism, even if you'd let him off the hook. That's the nice thing about fiction: you can create outcomes that can never happen in real life.
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This is actually a reason I love the Equestrian ruling class. Some people can just tell when someone's being sincere or lying — they're very good at "feeling out" the situation. If that always leads them right, and they have supreme authority, then they can let people go scott-free for things if they're truly repentant of them, and if they've learned their lesson. In such situations, rather than make a powerful enemy and someone who gets trapped in the system of "Prison" → "Can't get a job because criminal background, so do crime to survive" → "Prison" → etc, they can skip all the unnecessary evil that is inflicted.

Sadly, it's not something that could ever work in the real world, though… 1. Who would you pick? Anyone who comes forward is almost certainly doing it for the wrong reasons and would be a terrible supreme ruler. Any random person isn't going to be much better. 2. When they die, you have to do 1. again until you inevitably get someone who's terrible.

Equestria got around the problem with Celestia, though…

What we need is a Lobster-king :q (Lobsters are immortal, fun fact — they're very killable, of course, but don't "die of old age") (Okay, reading about it, not really immortal because of molting stuff, but put those genetic properties in a mammal and they probably would be?)
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@whitestar60
In the Season 3 finale, Twilight did a spiral flight pattern to the camera, but the next season opened with her barely being able to fly.

I'm hoping this might be similar?

I still need to see the first minute of the new episode.
whitestar60

@Mr grump
Don't forget she then spent the whole of Rainbow Rocks being hated by almost all of CHS, and even the Rainbooms didn't completely trust her, Hell even Twilight was hesitant.
Then Starlight gets forgiven by Everypony in a montage. that more than the Unicorn beating the element of MAGIC or anything else in that finale pisses me off. All the wasted story potential, Starlight winning over each of the main six could have been it's own episode. the Equal village? a two parter. Hell maybe they could finally do the moral they've been dancing around since Discord, "That sometimes forgiving someone, especially someone who hurt you deeply is the hardest thing you can do."
Terminal Red

@Background Pony #21EF
Sunset was unwillingly transformed into a demon when she did that stuff and she still had to do manual labour. And people were still mad at her, its just that the backlash wasn't as strong because at the time we didn't think we would ever see her again as there was no reason to think that equestria girls would have a sequal so there was no fear of her stealing the spotlight or ruining the group dynamic of the main characters.
Background Pony #04C8
But no one ever gets angry at sunset for Mind raping the school…
So why is starlight any different?
Jades

@Cirrus Light

Well yeah I can accept that. The problem here is that Glimmer is more like someone threatening to bomb something and Twilight is trying to talk her down. Then all of a sudden Glimmer opens up and Twilight doesn't open up in return. While it could be seen as respectable it's ridiculously safe and doesn't really solve anything. Twilight also didn't even open herself up to Glimmer. She pretty much effectively shut down any link she would've had to Glimmer. It makes any open attitude Starlight has to Twilight extremely baffling really.
whitestar60

Yes, Bending the space-time continuum over and *yay*ing it in the back door would be a pretty serious crime.

Oh, but let's not forget the kidnapping of those ponies in the equal village.
I assume she find wandering ponies, lured them to her town, stole their cutie marks, then locked them in the Brainwashing, I mean "Re-education" house until they broke. So kidnapping, assault, psychological torture.

Throw the book, the bookshelf and the library at her Twilight.